ERIC, I've had the shared good feeling about RICHARD since the first time I saw him play...same about CRYER. By the way STEPH will always be the TACIT WW till he hangs it up, so I do not vote for him...lol
These channels on Youtube are hilarious. I know their job is to overreact for engagement but it's still pretty crazy. I'm pretty sure they'll be making the "Is Steph Curry washed?" video after his first bad shooting night of the regular season
Not sure I follow. Checking now, Steph is 7th -- which I believe is where they had him before (maybe he was 6th and they moved Wemby up?) -- and 7th is hardly a diss or even unusual a placement.
Not sure what PG (Paul George?) has to do with anything, they have him 71st.
It would also be hilarious to win a championship with only six 1st round picks on the roster; Steph, Horford, Hield, Kuminga, Moody and Podziemski. I’d guess that’d be unprecedented in the modern era.
Everyone else is either a 2nd round pick (Green, Melton, Santos, Post, TJD, Richard and Toohey) or undrafted (Seth, GP2, Spencer and Rowe).
I think so. He was a super productive player in college, has good feel and fundamentals, and is a very fluid athlete, even if he’s not explosive. I generally think that lively feet and being able to easily switch hips is a big floor raiser.
Plus, he just felt like an NBA player to me from watching him in summer league.
I realized yesterday, for the first time ever, I actually enjoyed watching Kuminga play basketball.
In the past, even when Kuminga was on fire, I disliked his process by which he got his production. It was, to borrow from my favorite basketball nickname of all time, Bad Porn.
But watching him attack the basket and then at the last second wrap a pass around his defender to an open Post who softly float in the easy 2 pts . . . I got excited.
No doubt, he is making a conscious effort to play DUBS BALL; he is REBOUNDING AND ASSISTING...his scoring will emerge again through the flow of his new game. More importantly, his value is going up and STEVE is letting him get the minutes to SHOW....of course, his trade options are increasing as are the DUB options for JANUARY...AND, I AM ELATED ABOUT THE LATTER.
Ironically, had he gotten a lot more minutes earlier in his career, he may have reached this point sooner. I completely get why they didn’t just hand him a lot of minutes, but I do think it’s fair to say that, particularly as a player that has showed a lot of good timing on the court, but unpolished feel and fundamentals, consistent and heavy minutes would have helped those three facets of the game develop and intersect sooner.
Will Richard is one of those guys that as soon as you watch him you know he is a player.
He has the physique, movement and feel for the game.If he can become a 38 to 40 pct 3 point shooter he becomes a guy who is drafted in the 10 to 20 range, not 56th.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We've been so spoiled by Steph and Klay we think that % is realistic for the average NBA shooter. That's ELITE "we'll probably need to pay you 25m a year" territory. 35-38% should be good enough for a role player especially if he does other things well.
This has been said about many guys… most of whom never get there. Maybe Richard is one of the guys who can, and that would be awesome, but it’s still not likely.
He measured 6’-3.25” in bare feet at this year’s combine, so in the old days of measuring with shoes he would have been called 6’-5”. He’s probably the same height or taller than “Six-five” Mitch Richmond…
OK- looked on Warrior's web site Roster page and they list him at 6 ft. 3 in.
That is taller than several of their other guards... in the few games I've seen he didn't look quite as big. He does play in an active crouch, so maybe I just couldn't tell.
College ft% is a much better indicator of NBA 3pt success than college 3pt%, and he shot 84% from the line. He’s older for a rookie, but I think his shot will develop just fine.
College FT% is a better indicator for NBA 3pt success than college 3 pt%, when its a college prospect who had a limited volume of three point attempts (a growing commonality with all the 1 and done prospects).
However, Richards is a multiple year college prospect with plenty of sample size/volume shooting from the college 3pt line. When you have the volume, the college 3 PT% is statistically a better indicator of future NBA 3 PT success.
I'd be happy with 35% but pretty much everybody shoots better when they are on the floor with Steph {Cf. Andrew Wiggins) so 37% might not be too much of a stretch.
Has anyone mentioned that Post seems to have worked on a floater this off season. So far it seems to mostly go in. It will be a great tool when he is pushed from the 3 point line. He wont have to dribble through players to get to the basket and its almost unstoppable for a 7 footer I think. A big deal which also shows how hard he has worked
I've noted, I think it's even gotten mention on the broadcasts (what few there have been... ahem)
Makes sense either he'd see that as a necessary addition to his game, or else his peers and coaches reinforced this. His outside shot is no secret anymore, so he's gonna need something else to take advantage of defenders selling out to run him off the line. That floater is going to be anytime he wants it. It's similar to Hartenstein's push shot, except Post is a multi-level scoring threat so it's slightly a different type of counter-move. Now I just wanna see him get craftier when he's under the basket.
Call me Nostradamus cause I predicted he would work to add the floater to add some diversity to his shot profile ensuring teams can’t just shut him down by running him off the line.
He had that floater in college, his float game and general touch from outside the restricted area was mentioned on most scouting reports. It just often takes time for that sort of thing to translate to the NBA, particularly for rookies not playing heavy minutes
BREAKING: Nine-time NBA All-Star Russell Westbrook has agreed on a deal to sign with the Sacramento Kings, Jeff Schwartz of Excel Sports Management tells ESPN. The 2017 league MVP enters his 18th NBA season.
Of course he's going to the Kings. Now they can play "trade possessions" with LaVine, DeRozan, and Westbrook isolating. And somehow they also want to run their offense through Sabonis. Sounds like a train wreck to me.
Also has anyone seen that new brown/cream colorway Warriors jersey that was being sold by Nike Brazil?
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Why some NBA players will wear gold patches on their jerseys now
The jerseys of the 2024-25 Kia NBA Most Valuable Player, Kia Rookie of the Year, and Kia Defensive Player of the Year will feature a gold logo patch on the back. So that means this program will see Shai-Gilgeous Alexander, Evan Mobley, and Stephon Castle as the only three NBA players to wear the "Gold Logoman" on the back of their jerseys this season
It's a small thing, but I really like that. It's kind of like the world and country championship jerseys in cycling. They should have something similar to the 'rainbow bands', too (for former winners, so Steph would always get to wear a special former MVP patch or colors somewhere on the jersey or something).
Eric, I am interested to know who our group sees as the Warriors wonder for the game. Its fun! an index of who is deveIoping and where the Warriors greatness this season will come from, how to construct lineups..... So adding Curry only told me that Curry was the best player -As the French say: quelle surprise! Its not as informative. And once Curry is taken out (and maybe?Jimmy) it is interesting if the best (other) player does it two games in a row- so the no repeat rule doesn't make sense to me. Feel free to ignore of course.
I know it's preseason, but it's hard not to get excited about where this thing could be going... Kuminga has been consistent in his effort toward creating for others, Podz has been good, and even our rookie #56 draft pick has impressed enough to earn a real chance at a rotation spot coming out of the gate.
Thanks for the recap, especially for a game most of us couldn't watch!
I'd be happy to have Richard for only 1 season before we have to pay him again, but if we pick up his team option, he's under contract until 2029. In fact (for now), he has the longest contract of any Warrior.
Eric, just wanted to note I share your irrationally good feeling about Will Richard. I got to watch part of the game last night and I got excited everytime he had touches.
I am very pleased with the progress of Post and other youngsters. Although the turnovers and fouls are killing us the fact that they eventually get organized out there is encouraging.
Too many players in the lineup to expect he will get more than occasional minutes. It could make a trade of two good players for one better one more possible down the road (like the trade for Jimmy last year) but if Kuminga keeps playing like this he shouldn't go anywhere
ERIC, I've had the shared good feeling about RICHARD since the first time I saw him play...same about CRYER. By the way STEPH will always be the TACIT WW till he hangs it up, so I do not vote for him...lol
These channels on Youtube are hilarious. I know their job is to overreact for engagement but it's still pretty crazy. I'm pretty sure they'll be making the "Is Steph Curry washed?" video after his first bad shooting night of the regular season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbTPwEBRV98
The Ringer has already dropped Steph down on it's top 100 list and moved PG up??????
Not sure I follow. Checking now, Steph is 7th -- which I believe is where they had him before (maybe he was 6th and they moved Wemby up?) -- and 7th is hardly a diss or even unusual a placement.
Not sure what PG (Paul George?) has to do with anything, they have him 71st.
At some point Steph was in the Ringers top 5 players. Now he's been dropped down to 7th.
At some point this year? I don't remember that.
In any case, 7th is not unreasonable.
The Ringer always disrespect Steph in their predictions and rankings so nothing new here
I don't recall that at all... are you thinking of a different site?
It's shameful.
Will Richard be the latest second-round steal?
It would be pretty hilarious if our all of our 2nd round picks (Richard, Toohey, Gui and TJD) ends up surviving the #2Timeline movement
It would also be hilarious to win a championship with only six 1st round picks on the roster; Steph, Horford, Hield, Kuminga, Moody and Podziemski. I’d guess that’d be unprecedented in the modern era.
Everyone else is either a 2nd round pick (Green, Melton, Santos, Post, TJD, Richard and Toohey) or undrafted (Seth, GP2, Spencer and Rowe).
Think you’re missing a pretty significant guy drafted 30th in your list of 1st rounders
I think so. He was a super productive player in college, has good feel and fundamentals, and is a very fluid athlete, even if he’s not explosive. I generally think that lively feet and being able to easily switch hips is a big floor raiser.
Plus, he just felt like an NBA player to me from watching him in summer league.
I realized yesterday, for the first time ever, I actually enjoyed watching Kuminga play basketball.
In the past, even when Kuminga was on fire, I disliked his process by which he got his production. It was, to borrow from my favorite basketball nickname of all time, Bad Porn.
But watching him attack the basket and then at the last second wrap a pass around his defender to an open Post who softly float in the easy 2 pts . . . I got excited.
I really hope Kuminga keeps this up.
No doubt, he is making a conscious effort to play DUBS BALL; he is REBOUNDING AND ASSISTING...his scoring will emerge again through the flow of his new game. More importantly, his value is going up and STEVE is letting him get the minutes to SHOW....of course, his trade options are increasing as are the DUB options for JANUARY...AND, I AM ELATED ABOUT THE LATTER.
Ironically, had he gotten a lot more minutes earlier in his career, he may have reached this point sooner. I completely get why they didn’t just hand him a lot of minutes, but I do think it’s fair to say that, particularly as a player that has showed a lot of good timing on the court, but unpolished feel and fundamentals, consistent and heavy minutes would have helped those three facets of the game develop and intersect sooner.
TRUE. DEVELOPING RAW PLAYERS IS AN ART...
Will Richard is one of those guys that as soon as you watch him you know he is a player.
He has the physique, movement and feel for the game.If he can become a 38 to 40 pct 3 point shooter he becomes a guy who is drafted in the 10 to 20 range, not 56th.
36-37% on solid per36 volume would be fantastic, honestly, given everything else he brings to the table.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We've been so spoiled by Steph and Klay we think that % is realistic for the average NBA shooter. That's ELITE "we'll probably need to pay you 25m a year" territory. 35-38% should be good enough for a role player especially if he does other things well.
> If he can become a 38 to 40 pct 3 point shooter
This has been said about many guys… most of whom never get there. Maybe Richard is one of the guys who can, and that would be awesome, but it’s still not likely.
Not very tall (neither am I) . He needs to be pesky and quick as a defender, if he keeps that up he can be useful.
Assessed as only a PG COULD....LOL
He measured 6’-3.25” in bare feet at this year’s combine, so in the old days of measuring with shoes he would have been called 6’-5”. He’s probably the same height or taller than “Six-five” Mitch Richmond…
OK- looked on Warrior's web site Roster page and they list him at 6 ft. 3 in.
That is taller than several of their other guards... in the few games I've seen he didn't look quite as big. He does play in an active crouch, so maybe I just couldn't tell.
To me it's the opposite, he looks bigger than 6'3. Broad shoulders and big wingspan too
He’s got a 6’10” wingspan, that tends to make players play much larger than their height would indicate.
I am a it nervous about his potential as a shooter.
He only averaged 35% from the college three point line. It’s concerning.
Yea I know. His shot looks pretty good so fingers crossed he can improve with more focus on being a three point guy.
Everyone is different. He will be the first promising rook to play on a team with Curry, Curry and Hield to be motivated by.
College ft% is a much better indicator of NBA 3pt success than college 3pt%, and he shot 84% from the line. He’s older for a rookie, but I think his shot will develop just fine.
College FT% is a better indicator for NBA 3pt success than college 3 pt%, when its a college prospect who had a limited volume of three point attempts (a growing commonality with all the 1 and done prospects).
However, Richards is a multiple year college prospect with plenty of sample size/volume shooting from the college 3pt line. When you have the volume, the college 3 PT% is statistically a better indicator of future NBA 3 PT success.
I'd be happy with 35% but pretty much everybody shoots better when they are on the floor with Steph {Cf. Andrew Wiggins) so 37% might not be too much of a stretch.
Has anyone mentioned that Post seems to have worked on a floater this off season. So far it seems to mostly go in. It will be a great tool when he is pushed from the 3 point line. He wont have to dribble through players to get to the basket and its almost unstoppable for a 7 footer I think. A big deal which also shows how hard he has worked
I've noted, I think it's even gotten mention on the broadcasts (what few there have been... ahem)
Makes sense either he'd see that as a necessary addition to his game, or else his peers and coaches reinforced this. His outside shot is no secret anymore, so he's gonna need something else to take advantage of defenders selling out to run him off the line. That floater is going to be anytime he wants it. It's similar to Hartenstein's push shot, except Post is a multi-level scoring threat so it's slightly a different type of counter-move. Now I just wanna see him get craftier when he's under the basket.
There were broadcasts?
Call me Nostradamus cause I predicted he would work to add the floater to add some diversity to his shot profile ensuring teams can’t just shut him down by running him off the line.
Next step, improve his defense/rebounding.
He had that floater in college, his float game and general touch from outside the restricted area was mentioned on most scouting reports. It just often takes time for that sort of thing to translate to the NBA, particularly for rookies not playing heavy minutes
Well-stated.
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BREAKING: Nine-time NBA All-Star Russell Westbrook has agreed on a deal to sign with the Sacramento Kings, Jeff Schwartz of Excel Sports Management tells ESPN. The 2017 league MVP enters his 18th NBA season.
Of course he's going to the Kings. Now they can play "trade possessions" with LaVine, DeRozan, and Westbrook isolating. And somehow they also want to run their offense through Sabonis. Sounds like a train wreck to me.
Also has anyone seen that new brown/cream colorway Warriors jersey that was being sold by Nike Brazil?
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spacefish420
emoji:cle-4: Cavaliers
Why some NBA players will wear gold patches on their jerseys now
The jerseys of the 2024-25 Kia NBA Most Valuable Player, Kia Rookie of the Year, and Kia Defensive Player of the Year will feature a gold logo patch on the back. So that means this program will see Shai-Gilgeous Alexander, Evan Mobley, and Stephon Castle as the only three NBA players to wear the "Gold Logoman" on the back of their jerseys this season
That brown jersey is hella fine.
https://www.reddit.com/r/warriors/s/jon4Jjrwpr
Brown is the best color and I don’t know why more teams don’t wear it
I like it. I don't really understand why it's only been made available in Brazil.
It's a small thing, but I really like that. It's kind of like the world and country championship jerseys in cycling. They should have something similar to the 'rainbow bands', too (for former winners, so Steph would always get to wear a special former MVP patch or colors somewhere on the jersey or something).
Eric, I am interested to know who our group sees as the Warriors wonder for the game. Its fun! an index of who is deveIoping and where the Warriors greatness this season will come from, how to construct lineups..... So adding Curry only told me that Curry was the best player -As the French say: quelle surprise! Its not as informative. And once Curry is taken out (and maybe?Jimmy) it is interesting if the best (other) player does it two games in a row- so the no repeat rule doesn't make sense to me. Feel free to ignore of course.
Thanks, I appreciate all feedback on this. I think I’ll keep the new policy through preseason and reassess. It’s preseason for everybody.
Yes, my complaints about things need sharpening. Working on it.
I know it's preseason, but it's hard not to get excited about where this thing could be going... Kuminga has been consistent in his effort toward creating for others, Podz has been good, and even our rookie #56 draft pick has impressed enough to earn a real chance at a rotation spot coming out of the gate.
I couldn't watch the game and highlights don't hlighlight Podz's bad shooting last night. I assume just not his night. . .
Thanks for the recap, especially for a game most of us couldn't watch!
I'd be happy to have Richard for only 1 season before we have to pay him again, but if we pick up his team option, he's under contract until 2029. In fact (for now), he has the longest contract of any Warrior.
Preseason is like the long ride up to the first drop on a rollercoaster. Hope the Dubs are ready!
Wheeeeeeee!
Eric, just wanted to note I share your irrationally good feeling about Will Richard. I got to watch part of the game last night and I got excited everytime he had touches.
I am very pleased with the progress of Post and other youngsters. Although the turnovers and fouls are killing us the fact that they eventually get organized out there is encouraging.
Steph Curry was the right answer, but had to go with my man Will Richard. Your good feeling is become less irrational by the game…
Yes. However, I must note that Steph has perfected the quick release this year.
Coop has already locked up ROY but man it'll be nice if Richard can challenge him at least.
Too many players in the lineup to expect he will get more than occasional minutes. It could make a trade of two good players for one better one more possible down the road (like the trade for Jimmy last year) but if Kuminga keeps playing like this he shouldn't go anywhere
Coop, like anyone else, will need to play 65 games. I hope he makes it, but it isn’t guaranteed.
28 FTA for the Lakers. 8 FTA for the Suns.
It's so sketchy it's comical.