It just occurred to me that we've flipped the consensus on of our arguments.
Beginning of the year: we're too young, we're too inexperienced ... why did we draft such young players (Wise, JK, Moody)?
Now, it's: we're too small and too old.
Part of the changed attitude is that this year's rookies cracked the rotation in 1/2 a season, and showed youth could contribute right away.
The other part is that Steph, while still a very good player, was not as good as in the last couple of years. Neither was Dray. Klay ... more or less at his post-injury level, which is not what we need for our 2nd scoring option.
So I have been thinking about this whole "end of the dynasty" talk and I have found something about it that bugs me a bit. Now in itself it is a perfectly valid thing to assume, our best player is 36 and has begun to decline and our second best player is 34. However, even despite them not being at their peaks, both of them are still top level players: Curry will be All-NBA and the only reason Draymond won't be on either all-defense team is because of the games limit. So we still have a top 25 (let's be cynical for the sake of argument and assume Curry only gets the All-NBA spot based off reputation) player and a top 10 defender in the league and I am to assume that is insufficient to go deep in the playoffs with the right team around it? To quote the second-greatest player of his generation: "🤔Something is REAL 🐠 🐟 🎣 🐟🐠 going on". I kid, but I would find the end of the dynasty easier to swallow if Steph and Dray were playing mediocre on a team that actually would be good enough to compete with better star players. Then again, maybe I just think we're going too gently into that good night. I don't know, man.
Also a bit hard to quantify but could it be that we have simply been the benefactors of bad luck all season in regards to the timing of who we play. The Chicago outfit (shoutout Al Capone) we saw at Chase was not the same club mailing it for long stretches earlier in the year in large part to the leap made by Colby White. We caught San Antonio without Wemby which means they were able to go a bit smaller and quicker against us. We finally have Halliburton rounding back into form after weeks and weeks of struggling. The only team that is on our schedule that has gotten worse as the year has gone by is Memphis but either due to return from injury or adjustments to how they match up (San Antonio) we are not getting the schedule gimmies we were originally counting on to make a final push. Yeah good teams win regardless and we are not a good team right now but if a few matchups break the other way we are talking about an 8th seed over trying to run the gauntlet as a 10th seed.
Just a reminder as our dynasty ages… this is the way the entire system is supposed to work. It’s not a character flaw or team failure that somehow the dynasty couldn’t stay at the top.
First, you have the natural decline that comes with time. On top of that, the lottery rules are meant to punish teams that win. On top of that, the salary cap rules are made to stop teams from keeping rosters together and being dynasties, and also made to stop good teams from adding good players. ON TOP OF THAT, the rules weren’t working against GSW, so a couple of years ago, the salary cap rules were changed to punish GSW and other teams that valued winning over money.
The only team to buck the system was the Spurs, and they weren’t nearly as successful as you might think, given the way people talk about it. Their 4 rings in 9 years run was noticeably less successful than the Dubs 4 rings in 9 years. And then SAS spent 5 rough years failing to get back to the Finals, and each year would have had Dub Nation losing their collective crap — 2 1st round losses, 1 second round loss, 2 WCF losses, followed by the cherry of probably the second worst Finals loss (Ray Allen) in history behind only our dear 2016. And that was with less punishing tax/draft rules.
So… as we all grapple with mortality in our own ways, let’s have a measure of respect for GSW, who is trying to move to the next generation of success without tanking — something no other team has been able to do, and which every part of the league is designed to stop, from teams to collective bargaining.
Haliburton probably showing up the Warriors they should have picked him at #2 back in 2020. Those 2 3s at the end of both 2nd and 3rd quarters pretty much was momentum killer and game..
We just haven't been able to play as a TEAM this season consistently. Earlier in the season it was all of the Klay/JK/Draymond drama but even with all of the off court stuff seemingly resolved we're still not playing as a team. I mean FFS it's about to be April and Steph is calling the rest of the guys out for playing with "no sense of urgency"
The BART (Big Ass Road Trip)* is underway and we’re currently camping in Brookings on the Oregon coast as we make our way south. We were able to watch last night’s game on a weak cell signal and….I has disappointment.
*60 days, 7800 miles, 20 states and 19 National/State Parks.
I just woke up from a dream in which Kerr said In a conference that they were gonna start resting players and completely load up for the play in. Just wish we didn’t have Houston breathing down our tails in real life so we could do that.
Are the next few seasons for the Warriors gonna be us watching the OGs play well for the first 1-3 quarters and then lose a game eventually because of them getting tired and left in the dust by the young guys? Because if that's how it's gonna be, oh man. It's gonna be painful.
https://open.substack.com/pub/dubnation/p/warriors-figuring-out-if-being-in?r=3lpzv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true tyrese haliburton is hella good
It just occurred to me that we've flipped the consensus on of our arguments.
Beginning of the year: we're too young, we're too inexperienced ... why did we draft such young players (Wise, JK, Moody)?
Now, it's: we're too small and too old.
Part of the changed attitude is that this year's rookies cracked the rotation in 1/2 a season, and showed youth could contribute right away.
The other part is that Steph, while still a very good player, was not as good as in the last couple of years. Neither was Dray. Klay ... more or less at his post-injury level, which is not what we need for our 2nd scoring option.
So I have been thinking about this whole "end of the dynasty" talk and I have found something about it that bugs me a bit. Now in itself it is a perfectly valid thing to assume, our best player is 36 and has begun to decline and our second best player is 34. However, even despite them not being at their peaks, both of them are still top level players: Curry will be All-NBA and the only reason Draymond won't be on either all-defense team is because of the games limit. So we still have a top 25 (let's be cynical for the sake of argument and assume Curry only gets the All-NBA spot based off reputation) player and a top 10 defender in the league and I am to assume that is insufficient to go deep in the playoffs with the right team around it? To quote the second-greatest player of his generation: "🤔Something is REAL 🐠 🐟 🎣 🐟🐠 going on". I kid, but I would find the end of the dynasty easier to swallow if Steph and Dray were playing mediocre on a team that actually would be good enough to compete with better star players. Then again, maybe I just think we're going too gently into that good night. I don't know, man.
I'm thinking of a meme regarding the Warriors season right now. Here it is:
Warriors: This is the Death Lineup!
Rest of the league: Warriors, this is the 7th year in a row you've shown your "Death Lineup" to us.
https://twitter.com/KBknowsball/status/1771398842598228030
We can't make a serious playoff push when your starting SF has 5 of these type of games for every good one he plays
Also a bit hard to quantify but could it be that we have simply been the benefactors of bad luck all season in regards to the timing of who we play. The Chicago outfit (shoutout Al Capone) we saw at Chase was not the same club mailing it for long stretches earlier in the year in large part to the leap made by Colby White. We caught San Antonio without Wemby which means they were able to go a bit smaller and quicker against us. We finally have Halliburton rounding back into form after weeks and weeks of struggling. The only team that is on our schedule that has gotten worse as the year has gone by is Memphis but either due to return from injury or adjustments to how they match up (San Antonio) we are not getting the schedule gimmies we were originally counting on to make a final push. Yeah good teams win regardless and we are not a good team right now but if a few matchups break the other way we are talking about an 8th seed over trying to run the gauntlet as a 10th seed.
Correct me if I’m wrong but hadn’t he retired before the season even started or is it this my Mandela Effect?
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Just a reminder as our dynasty ages… this is the way the entire system is supposed to work. It’s not a character flaw or team failure that somehow the dynasty couldn’t stay at the top.
First, you have the natural decline that comes with time. On top of that, the lottery rules are meant to punish teams that win. On top of that, the salary cap rules are made to stop teams from keeping rosters together and being dynasties, and also made to stop good teams from adding good players. ON TOP OF THAT, the rules weren’t working against GSW, so a couple of years ago, the salary cap rules were changed to punish GSW and other teams that valued winning over money.
The only team to buck the system was the Spurs, and they weren’t nearly as successful as you might think, given the way people talk about it. Their 4 rings in 9 years run was noticeably less successful than the Dubs 4 rings in 9 years. And then SAS spent 5 rough years failing to get back to the Finals, and each year would have had Dub Nation losing their collective crap — 2 1st round losses, 1 second round loss, 2 WCF losses, followed by the cherry of probably the second worst Finals loss (Ray Allen) in history behind only our dear 2016. And that was with less punishing tax/draft rules.
So… as we all grapple with mortality in our own ways, let’s have a measure of respect for GSW, who is trying to move to the next generation of success without tanking — something no other team has been able to do, and which every part of the league is designed to stop, from teams to collective bargaining.
Bad game for Kuminga, but he did make a couple really nice passes (Draymond doinked two lay-ups that took away two assists).
Cool to see this part of his game continue to develop.
Haliburton probably showing up the Warriors they should have picked him at #2 back in 2020. Those 2 3s at the end of both 2nd and 3rd quarters pretty much was momentum killer and game..
We just haven't been able to play as a TEAM this season consistently. Earlier in the season it was all of the Klay/JK/Draymond drama but even with all of the off court stuff seemingly resolved we're still not playing as a team. I mean FFS it's about to be April and Steph is calling the rest of the guys out for playing with "no sense of urgency"
I believe the time has come for everyone to take a deep breath, set your expectations to zero and release the stress.
It is over. All good things come to an end. You can’t defeat Father Time. You can’t live in the past.
I am out of cliches.
A lot of the time it’s pretty hard to distinguish between being a sports fan and a sunk cost fallacy
The BART (Big Ass Road Trip)* is underway and we’re currently camping in Brookings on the Oregon coast as we make our way south. We were able to watch last night’s game on a weak cell signal and….I has disappointment.
*60 days, 7800 miles, 20 states and 19 National/State Parks.
I just woke up from a dream in which Kerr said In a conference that they were gonna start resting players and completely load up for the play in. Just wish we didn’t have Houston breathing down our tails in real life so we could do that.
Are the next few seasons for the Warriors gonna be us watching the OGs play well for the first 1-3 quarters and then lose a game eventually because of them getting tired and left in the dust by the young guys? Because if that's how it's gonna be, oh man. It's gonna be painful.