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Another great article in The Athletic by Thompson on Curry’s time at Davidson. The comments from readers, some of whom knew Steph, are just as good.

https://theathletic.com/3558216/2022/09/01/stephen-curry-davidson-thompson/

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Brutte notizie per Gallo:

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1565730776301412353

😞

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3.2 millions $ = disabled player exception for the Celtics

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Che sfiga = what a f-ing bad luck

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Ugh, that's a shame. Hope he can rehab and heal up for next season.

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He’ll be 35 next season. It’s gonna be tough.

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So Boston is only slightly better if Brogdon is healthy for the playoffs. Big "if" with him.

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Sep 2, 2022Liked by Eric Apricot

Is it too late to talk about the E1P above? Apricot definitely brought his "A" material for this one. "...call him George...tiny Dancer...I like food trucks..." Thanks for the analysis and the laughs.

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Sep 2, 2022·edited Sep 2, 2022

Just saw the new tech centric golf league, TGL, and how players will be able to earn equity! Ideas for the NBA?

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It's interesting to compare this deal to the one for Rudy Gobert - in both cases the teams making the deals have a very young potential superstar (Ant-Man, Mobley) and decided to burn a bunch of draft picks that they could use to built a team around said future superstar over the next few years. Bill Simmons was super negative about the trade for Gobert on his podcast because he felt like the timeline didn't work: Anthony Edwards is too young now to go all-in; he'll be hitting his prime as Gobert is leaving the league. But perhaps this one is better because Mitchell better matches the ages of the rest of the Cleveland core? I guess we'll find out, but I'm definitely interested to see how well Cleveland stacks up against the rest of the east.

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For all the chatter down below about whether Mitchell is truly an elite player, a lot of the catch-all stats have him as one of the top offensive players in the league. EPM has him 10th best offensively. RAPM has him 12th. He's absolutely top tier on that end of the floor. He's ultra high usage and the Jazz have had the 10th, 3rd, and 1st rated offenses the last three years.

The Cavs last year were the 20th ranked offense, but the 7th ranked defense. And they only had to give up Markannen of their high minute players from last year. I think there's no question that the Cavs are better with this move in the regular season.

Whether they can be title contenders? That's entirely dependent on whether you have a top 5 player in the league at any given time. Can Mobely be that? Maybe. Overall, I like it for Cleveland.

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My only quibble is that I'm not that sure that Mitchell is a huge upgrade over a healthy Colin Sexton on offense and playing Garland and Mitchell together is still a really small backcourt. They gave up a lot to get a little bit better.

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Steph with another feather in his cap - given key to Charlotte.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUt4vkbKeyI

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Crap. Someone got banned. I didn't see what happened, but anecdotal evidence suggests they probably misspelled "you're" a few times and then called someone else an idiot for not understanding basketball.

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Did Mitchell ask to be traded?

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With luck, neither of the Cavs' remaining bigs piss off Spida [like Gobert did] or they'll never see the ball from him again.

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Garland is a point guard - or that's what he was playing last season. Aside from being undersized, not a bad backcourt. IMO I have a feeling that the Cavs will get Mitchell more on board since he doesn't have to be the #1 scoring option all the time now.

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Sep 2, 2022·edited Sep 2, 2022

Kevin Pelton grades the Mitchell trade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTS8tT8BXvw

Timpf weighing in as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCC5lCsKdDc

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Sep 1, 2022·edited Sep 1, 2022

Can’t remember, was Mitchell the player that Shaq looked at/spoke to during one of the TNT broadcasts and said outright, you will never be a great player?

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He was. I hated it. The current fashion is for talking heads to make themselves a part of the story, and I really dislike that. If he's got something to say to Mitchell, I think that's good. Call him up and tell him, or go find him when he's in town and let him know. Don't embarrass him on television.

I thought Mitchell handled it fine, but there was no good reply to that assertion. The only thing he can do is prove Shaq wrong on court.

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My reaction exactly. Thnx

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Sep 1, 2022·edited Sep 1, 2022

So, to interrupt our "Cavs, dolts or geniuses" thread:

What do people consider a significant difference in TS%?

I posted one example yesterday ... PGIII is at .538, Klay at .547. My take (perhaps unwise) is that a <1% difference in TS% was minor.

It seems like most people consider 5% to be a big difference (certainly I would).

But, what difference do our stats heads think is enough to potentially mean one player is significantly more efficient?

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Sep 2, 2022·edited Sep 2, 2022

As mentioned, lots of context needs to be taken into account. But if you're comparing two similar players, one thing I often do is just look at the overall distribution in team rankings... eg. the top team had a TS% of .590 and the 15th team was .571... and last place was .530. So I'd say .020 is a fairly significant drop-off.

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Nice info, thanks!

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Sep 1, 2022·edited Sep 2, 2022

As belilaugh says, usage matters. Role too. And one season’s worth of data isn’t always that meaningful.

Without the context of usage, role, or overall career numbers a nine point difference in TS tells us very little.

But: All other things being completely equal, every ten points of TS% = 2 points per 100 possessions. “Significant” is subjective, but I’d consider player A a *significantly* more efficient scorer than player B starting around a 20-30 point delta (again, all other things being equal).

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Thanks, Sleepy.

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Sep 1, 2022·edited Sep 1, 2022

Depends on their usage imo.

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I am just asking this. If the warriors signed Poole to a long term deal, say 4 years, at market price, and then traded him on the open market, could they get 3 first round draft picks and a couple of first round swaps along with a couple of young players?

In other words, how much better is Mitchell compared to Poole?

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You mean how much worse? Slightly.

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You are suggesting that Poole is already better than Mitchell? That is what I thought might be but I was not sure.

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Sep 1, 2022·edited Sep 1, 2022

They’re pretty close, imo. Obviously Mitchell has the more decorated résumé, but I think Poole’s apprenticeship under Steph and Kerr for his entire young career will ultimately make him the better player.

I wouldn’t trade Poole for Mitchell, if anyone’s offering.

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Wow, how many first round picks do the jazz have now???

Ainge is a crazy good deal maker.

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He did the same thing in Boston with Garnett & Pierce when he broke up that team. It seemed to work out pretty well.

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He is. I can't imagine what he's saying to these other teams that nets him such a haul. It doesn't seem possible. Mitchell is a decent player, but that was a LOT of picks, to say nothing of the players involved.

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And that's on top of the Gobert deal, which was ridiculous. I realize GMs are always going to take calls from other GMs and at least listen but I think they might want to consider Ainge to be a demon and not to be listened to. Just kidding. Gotta hand it to him. Still... maybe he IS a demon!

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Boom! Mitchell to Cleveland.

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What an awful move by Cleveland imo

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Mitchell's not the guy to bet on imo. 6'1 chucker SG who doesn't play defense, congrats to the Cavs on becoming a better regular season team.

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Sep 1, 2022·edited Sep 1, 2022

This is where I am. I don't think Mitchell is all that great. This is the kind of move you make when you need the last piece for a true title contender. I just don't see this making Cleveland that much better (if at all).

They are a playoff team. Maybe they can become something more. It will be interesting to see.

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Mitchell has been below league average in offensive efficiency his whole career. This past season was the one time he was slightly above average TS% (Adjusted Shooting of 101 meaning he was 1% better than avg). He's not that great, imo.

That said, I think this is a decent move for the Cavs. If Mitchell/Gobert could make it into the 2nd round, certainly the ceiling is much higher with Mitchell/Mobley + Garland + some good other pieces.

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The Jazz were slightly better with Mitchell on the bench than on the floor in each of the last three seasons (-0.9, -3.8, -0.8 pts per 100).

Does that get filed under “all the evidence”?

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He didn't have to carry the whole load offensively in Utah imo, but oftentimes he tried to anyway.

If I was Cleveland I would have looked for a defensive stopper wing with some offensive versatility...like Andrew Wiggins. I'd much rather add Wiggins to that team than Mitchell. That was a rumor ahead of next offseason, so fortunately for the Warriors the Cavs went in a different direction.

That said I am very high on Garland and Mobley so it might not matter if those guys take big leaps. Same with how I don't love the Gobert move for Minnesota but if Edwards becomes "that guy" it might not matter as much.

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Also if I was Cleveland, I would be a city. Not sure how that would work.

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https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1565424787446439941

Didn't gut their core at all. Garland, Mitchell, Love and Mobley. Solid crew

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This could be a good deal for both sides. The Jazz presumably mostly want the picks and Sexton but Markannen The Wanderer (third team in as many seasons) is young, tall, and can shoot, so not a bad additional piece. I have questions about the Cavs backcourt defense but offensively I think more of Mitchell than some folks here.

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And Allen, Okoro, and Stevens… they’re a pretty solid, balanced, and young playoff rotation. Even Caris LeVert is pretty good for his spot in the rotation…

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Sep 1, 2022·edited Sep 1, 2022

Hmmm. What exactly is Cleveland doing? Strange move. Do they really think he's the last piece to them being a contender?

Gotta hand it to Ainge.

Edit: D'oh. Reply fail.

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He makes them a lot better. If he improves on D and Mobley develops on O, they could be a title contender. It’s not all about this year, that core can build together.

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That must be what they are thinking, but I'm dubious. I think that makes them a playoff team, but not sure about title contender.

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They don’t need any other “big” moves from here, though. There’s a path if their core 4 grows together. Maybe that doesn’t work out but I like the aggression

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