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Have we discussed JTA’s possible award?

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I tweeted it, but not mentioned it here...

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Jun 12, 2021Liked by Eric Apricot

I was pleasantly surprised. Standup dude!

https://mobile.twitter.com/warriors/status/1403377915375480841

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Time for me to read further than pick 14 in the mock drafts. I don’t recognise any of these names...

Wes Goldberg

@wcgoldberg

The Warriors tomorrow will hold predraft workouts with Derrick Alston Jr. (Boise State), JaQuori McLaughlin (Oregon State/UC Santa Barbara), EJ Onu (Shawnee State), Jordan Schakel (San Diego State), Jericho Sims (Texas) and McKinley Wright IV (Colorado).

7:48 AM · Jun 10, 2021

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Wes Goldberg, I recognize.

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I don’t either. These might be potential undrafted invitees.

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Can't tell if Mitchell is taking that next step into superstardom or the Clippers are just clueless

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Jazz are this good without Conley...wow

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They've got really really good roster constrcution.

They basically always play 1 big, at least 1 shot creator and 4 shooters (most of them really really good). Just the level of shooting can discombobulate defenses, and they have Ingles, Bogdanovic, MItchell, O'Neale, Conley, Clarkson etc.

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Yup just so many shooters. Stark difference to our team lol

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Go ahead and LOL, all but the Warriors were not a bad-shooting team. They had several players who shot well-above leave average (36.7%) from 3:

Steph .421

Bazemore .408

JTA .408

Lee .397

Mulder .397

Wiggins .380

Mannion shot exactly league average and Poole shot 35. The biggest problem was Oubre taking so many attempts (285) at a poor clip (31.6%).

Brady just wrote a whole article about how GSW was a good at shooting 3’s, but I don’t know if pasting GSOM articles is forbidden here.

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Volume matters too. Poole shot a much lower percentage than JTA, but Poole brings way more spacing the JTA.

By spacing metrics, we were bottom 10 percentile I believe.

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There is nothing forbidden about GSOM links here (we are still friends with Brady). Out of respect to them, don’t post the whole thing…

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Thank you! Tired of the "lack of shooters" narrative. We were 9th in 3P% even with Oubre dragging us down.

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That's thanks to Steph. Take him out and the team is 20th

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That's a ridiculous non-analysis. Take Steph out and you have to take out every other team's best shooter. Then we're not 20th.

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I mean, yah take out outliers and things change dramatically -- remove Oubre and Draymond and we're tied for 4th. Take out Steph and Oubre and we're middle of the pack. Take Joe Harris off the nets and they drop from 2nd to 10th (behind us).

If you take out Steph Draymond and Oubre you've got a group of solidly above average shooters (not quite tied for 12th), the problem is that none of them are above average offensive players. Steph is our only real threat, we need another good player, whether they're a shooter or not. For example, Jordan Clarkson or Bradley Beal would both drag our 3P% down substantially, but I would still take them over Luke Kennard or Desmond Bane or Payton Pritchard.

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Also 6th in attempts -- only teams that shot better than us on more attempts were the jazz and blazers

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They won't shoot like this every night and the Clips have gotten great shots with their smallball lineup but yes, the Jazz are good.

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Not playing Gobert 40+ minutes might well cost the Jazz this game. Favors just isn't good enough anymore.

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Outside of Steph and Klay, Spida is probably my favorite guard.

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Kyrie 45 minutes, KD 43… a total of 47 minutes from the bench, combined. I know they’re still up 2-1, and barely lost the game, but that can’t be good.

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Bucks up three with 2.1 left… setting up a heartbreaking OT?

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Whew that KD desperation heave was close

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Tucker is playing better d on kd now than when he was with the rockets lol

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I want tucker next year

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I like Tucker but at his age one never knows when his game will fall off the cliff.

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His game is pure hustle though. I also would think he'd only get 15-20 min for us. He's making kd work for everything.

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3 minutes without a point scored by either team.

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Why didn’t KD get any of these BS foul calls when he was playing for us? Lol

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More specifically, the Ws of that era were such a dominant force that the league was trying to 'even things up' to make it more interesting. I know I'm veering into conspiracy territory here, but I really believe that. Money talks. It's actually not bad to have a dominant team because fans love to see if David can slay Goliath, but then you've got to give David a chance. If Goliath just goes out and kicks everyone's butt, there's nothing to see.

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Holy shit, Giannis is 2 for7 on free throws. Hiss include an airball and getting called for standing there without shooting for more than 10 seconds. Deep in his head right now; I wonder if he gets tentative like Iggy.

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*his misses

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Baron Davis on All the Smoke - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piTpiBgtaGA

Part where they talk about the We Believe Warriors is awesome

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Damn they said Nellie checked out in the 2nd round after beating the Mavs

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Yeah. Also the Clipper section.. Sterling probably cursed that franchise for eternity

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That’s pretty good for Green really!

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Whatever. I'm getting mentally prepared for having the 6th (Scottie Barnes) and 14th (Kispert) draft picks. I get where Draymond is coming from, but assuming they are all back Thompson, Wiggins, Looney, Lee, Bazemore, Poole, and Paschall are nor rookies. And really, JTA isn't either given his international experience. regardless of what happens in the draft, Curry is going to be surrounded by veteran players. The rookies will be splitting their time between the G-league and the end of the bench. The Warriors have some options with the Mannion, Smailegic, GPII, Mulder, and Oubre slots to try to fine a veteran willing to play for the MLE and a couple of veterans wanting to chase a rind for the minimum if they feel they need old players. There's not reason to sell low on Wisemen or the draft picks.

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Why would it be selling low on the draft picks? Also I don't think ring chasers are looking to come to an 8 seed that got bumped from the playoffs.

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Baze is talking like he wants a longer term contract. I wonder if he's willing to lock in at the lower rate the Ws are likely to offer, or if he'll want one last payday. When you think about the relatively slim on-court difference between him and Oubre and observe that Oubre expects about $15 million (may ask for $20M), it's hard to expect Bazemore to come back to $2.3M or whatever the vet min is for a guy with his experience. Love to see him back if he's got enough and just wants to play with Steph and live in the Bay Area.

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Every time I watch Giannis attack via a spin move I think of how glorious it’s going to be watching a filled out Wiseman do the same thing. And when they sag off him at the 3pt line, he’s going to knock it down (unlike Giannis in today’s game). Wisemans potential is exciting.

Don’t know enough about the rookies coming in, but I think anything is for sale for the right vet (cough cough..al horford).

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It could also be selling high on either Wiseman or the draft picks though. Prospects automatically lose trade value just by the passage of time, they have to improve their skill level at a rate that outstrips that process. Teams would be trading for the potential, not just the rookie year production.

The Magic could have traded Mo Bamba for more after his rookie season than they can now.

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Jun 10, 2021Liked by punk basketball

I don't know why, but I just can't get too worked up over the fact that Steph and Dray got "snubbed" in the awards this year.

Top three out of 500+ in anything is amazing. Hugely respectful to Steph and Dray.

Since the awards aren't based on any objective criteria, there's always going to be room for argument and debate, and while I would have loved to see Steph and Dray voted #1 out of 500+, I'm pretty happy with them being #3.

There are a lot of guys I don't see play that often, and I'm as big a homer as anyone (and love Steph's and Dray's games), but I can appreciate others' greatness, too. I'm getting to see some of it in the playoffs this year. Kawhi in the last couple of games in the first round? Devastating. Lilliard in the 2 OT game against Denver? Did things I don't know if Steph could do.

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This is a mature perspective. I didn't have a problem with Steph not being MVP, but I did have a problem with his being 3rd. He finished behind Embiid, who missed 21 games of a 72 game season. I don't think you can be the 'most valuable' if you don't even see the floor 30% of the time.

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Exactly. Gobert, Simmons, or Draymond would have been a deserving DPOY. All were outstanding. And while we could make a great argument for Steph as MVP based on carrying us all year, not to mention the scoring title, Jokic and Embiid had great seasons too. All were deserving.

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Very mature take!

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