That team was noted for having the most regular season wins while missing the postseason; will these Warriors make the playoffs during their April push?
With the Kings dropping to #9, this is the best chance for the Dubs to win in the Play In. Playing the winner of Lakers/NO, would be tough if both teams were fully healthy but at least gives us a fighting chance.
Kings are only 1/2 game behind the Lakers and have one more game to play. They swept the Lakers 4-0 during the regular season so they hold the tiebreaker. So I think it's a little early to conclude that Kings will finish behind the Lakers. Kings have 3 tough games - OKC, NO, and Phoenix, but they also have Brooklyn and Portland. Lakers have Minnesota, Dubs, Memphis, and NO. Dubs have the easiest schedule of the three with a chance to beat two teams ahead of them (Lakers, NO) in addition to playing 3 games against tank commanders (Utah x2, Portland).
This is why I suggested resting guys vs lakers especially if we have no hope of 8th seed to keep Lakers ahead. We could try to beat pels also to keep them down.
I will gladly accept the opportunity watch a Steph 50 piece end Mike Brown’s season again… this is a nice silver lining. Just have to avoid giving up a 20 point lead this time…
Part of the problem with blowing that big lead to the Kings was that the Dubs were concerned about the point spread because of the stupid IST. Instead of playing to win, they were playing to win big and took a few more chances.
I’m not buying it. This is the team that has blown the most 12 point leads in the league this year. Why was that game a special excuse fudge up? Nah, it was a standard fudge up for standard lead blowing reasons
I can’t remember, was he incapacitated, did he have to stay out of a game? If so, I can move him up to another category. One reason I think he is so strong is because he takes all those charges and still continues to play game after game after game.
Steph Curry is out tomorrow at home against the Jazz. The Warriors are resting him. Curry is at 71 games played this season. Andrew Wiggins and Jonathan Kuminga are questionable. Gary Payton II is probable.
Either way, STEPH would be playing, with LoLakers UP next, if we considered it a MUST WIN. Methinks REST, HEALING, & GAME RECONDITIONING is top priority now.
Probably the former...rest. Methinks we pretty much have locked 10th...what is it, either 1 win for us or 1 HOUSTON loss...KLAY had some knee tenderness also; frankly, I was surprised he played Vs MAVS after we beat HOUSTON.
Leaving open both possibilities. If we win, we can still make a run for #8. If we lose, we can start packing it in and resting guys for the play-in(s). Either way, we get Steph a few days of much needed rest.
WOW. Right now, it looks like SAC has the inside track to #9 and playing us. LoLAKERS are playing themselves to a game VS PELS and #7 slot, so, we may have to beat PELS after SAC for the #8 slot and the opportunity to beat DENVER in 4 straight....lol Obviously, I think SUNS will not drop, and DENVER will finish on top of T-WOLVES...
I agree that the Suns are *most likely* out of the play-in, but we’re still talking like a 70% chance.
Assuming for the sake of simplicity that they’re safely in the playoffs: any of the Lakers, Pels, and Kings could still be the Warriors’ play-in opponents. They could play one or two of them, in any order.
Any of Denver, Minny, and OKC could still be their first round playoff opponent, if they get that far.
Way too soon to start assuming one of the many possible scenarios. The only thing we know for sure is that the Rockets are out, and the top five (DEN, OKC, MIN, LAC, DAL) are in.
A lot of the final seeding will depend on the Pels, since they still play games against all three play-in teams (Lakers, Kings, Dubs) they are currently ahead of.
No doubt, and, as usual, you are spot on. As you know, I enjoy prognasticating as far ahead as possible; in this case, 5 games...lol. Methinks, if we had beat the MAVS, KERR may have pushed it. After they squeezed a win, given our injury/aches-n-pains, REST/HEAL, as you correctly pointed out earlier, METHINKS became TOP KERR PRIORITY for possible 2-game play-in..
Minny. I get that the play in is an elimination game, but I don’t get as much the hand wringing about having to beat great teams in playoff series. This is the playoffs… that’s how it goes.
Sure hope so, otherwise we may see LoLakers or DENVER in 2d round. Either way, it seems we have to go through DENVER in 1st or 2nd Round in our best-case scenarios? (edited after your edit, above): No hand wringing, just hate how SUNS and LoLakers put themselves in a better position while we were reinventing the wheel....
Lakers beating the Cavs is a double-edged sword — decreases the chances of us getting to #8 or 9, but increases the chances of us not facing the Lakers in the #9-10.
Having to beat the Kings and Pels to get the #8 seed would be no picnic, but it seems like we might be trending that way.
I saw Wiseman come up in the other thread about even if he got more college experience he would still not be a great basketball player. Made me wonder, from what you've seen, what other sports would he be better at dominating given his physical talent??
With that loss, the odds of us making the 7/8 play-in game and winning that game to earn the 7 seed dropped from 7.3% to 4.2%. Worst case scenario, we don't rest Curry/Klay/Green/Cp3/GP2 anyone else with lingering injuries.
Why wasn't TJD in the closing lineup? He out rebounded their bigs so many times in the minutes he was in. I can't help but believe that TJD would have made the winning difference down the stretch blocking or altering a shot or two in the paint, getting a few more rebounds than we got, and scoring on Alley Oops or feeds from Klay or CP3 or Steph or whomever. It's obvious that in crunch time teams are doubling Curry and Klay. But without Kuminga or Wiggins as an outlet scoring option TJD has taken on that role very often, in a different way of course. And when you could have put in a player who would not only make a difference defensively in the paint as well as offensively, that seems like a no brainer. Podz made some bad decisions, took some crazy bad shots around the rim and is not athletic enough to prevent athletic guys from blowing by him. With no Kuminga or Wiggs as defenders and scoring options when Steph and Klay are covered, give me TJD as a scoring option any day over Podz. Bottom line, if TJD was in the closing lineup, in my opinion we win by 4 or more.
Is it accurate to say that the Warrior season has been split in two, more or less? That the first half with missed time from Draymond and others, and Klay and Wiggins not being themselves, and newcomers getting adjusted, and Kerr trying to figure out what he had in the younger players and what lineups work; is very different from the second half, when the team seems to more or less be rolling, yet facing an uphill climb?
Seems like that to me, although I'm not sure the wins count strictly follows that analysis. I just get this optimism, imagining some play in scenario where we are at least minimally rested, have a lot of momentum from a lot of easy wins coming up, have a clearer sense of roles and plays, and more playoff experience than anyone, and then we crush all in our path. Willing to hear counterarguments.
I agree with the split season appearance of things , and hope that the team can get at least minimally rested. That should carry over the momentum and optimisim if they can get out of the play in and into 7 game series..
It’s gonna be interesting to see what they do with the 4x cali teams… keep them together? Or pair GSW/SAC with POR/SEA and LAL/LAC with PHX/LAV? I’d lean to the latter. Then have UTA/DEN/OKC/MIN together and SAS/DAL/HOU/NOP together, shipping MEM to the East.
Why would the East go to 17 teams (15+2) and the West stay at 15 (15+2-2)? Mathematically, only one West team would go to the East to give both conferences 16 teams.
IMO it should be the T-Wolves who move, they are close to Milwaukee, Chicago, and sorta close to Detroit, Indiana, Cleveland, Toronto.
In the West, their closest teams are Denver and Memphis, both of which are further away than the teams named above.
It’s that the expansion teams will be in Seattle and somewhere else in the western part of the country, so Memphis will shift from the Western conference to the East.
Clingan will be a better pro than Edey
5 rebs for a 7 footer?
Even if the playoffs were seeded 1-16 regardless of East/West, Dubs still don't make the playoffs.
61 Celtics
53 Wolves
53 Nuggets
52 Thunder
49 Clippers
47 Mavs
47 Bucks
46 Suns
46 Cavs
45 Pelicans
45 Lakers
45 Magic
45 Knicks
44 Kings
44 Pacers
43 Heat
42 76ers/Warriors miss playoffs
They would have a better seed in the play in tourney tho… a home game against Houston for the chance to play the loser of the Kings/Pacers
With the Kings dropping to #9, this is the best chance for the Dubs to win in the Play In. Playing the winner of Lakers/NO, would be tough if both teams were fully healthy but at least gives us a fighting chance.
Kings are only 1/2 game behind the Lakers and have one more game to play. They swept the Lakers 4-0 during the regular season so they hold the tiebreaker. So I think it's a little early to conclude that Kings will finish behind the Lakers. Kings have 3 tough games - OKC, NO, and Phoenix, but they also have Brooklyn and Portland. Lakers have Minnesota, Dubs, Memphis, and NO. Dubs have the easiest schedule of the three with a chance to beat two teams ahead of them (Lakers, NO) in addition to playing 3 games against tank commanders (Utah x2, Portland).
This is why I suggested resting guys vs lakers especially if we have no hope of 8th seed to keep Lakers ahead. We could try to beat pels also to keep them down.
I will gladly accept the opportunity watch a Steph 50 piece end Mike Brown’s season again… this is a nice silver lining. Just have to avoid giving up a 20 point lead this time…
Part of the problem with blowing that big lead to the Kings was that the Dubs were concerned about the point spread because of the stupid IST. Instead of playing to win, they were playing to win big and took a few more chances.
I’m not buying it. This is the team that has blown the most 12 point leads in the league this year. Why was that game a special excuse fudge up? Nah, it was a standard fudge up for standard lead blowing reasons
IST? lol that shit was so dumb I keep forgetting that even happened. It will never matter, well at least not to the majority of fans I bet
Loser of?
Yes.
With the season winding down:
Active/lingering injury….Curry, Moody, Looney, Wiggs, Kuminga, GP, Saric? As evidenced by wraps, etc.
Long term lingering injury…Dray, Klay
No apparent lingering injury…TJD, CP, Podz (the rookies and the GSW Iron Man)
Only player with no apparent incapacitating injury this season… Podz, the walking wall
I thought Podz had a sore knee or ankle just a few games ago, no?
I can’t remember, was he incapacitated, did he have to stay out of a game? If so, I can move him up to another category. One reason I think he is so strong is because he takes all those charges and still continues to play game after game after game.
Per Slater:
Steph Curry is out tomorrow at home against the Jazz. The Warriors are resting him. Curry is at 71 games played this season. Andrew Wiggins and Jonathan Kuminga are questionable. Gary Payton II is probable.
https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/status/1776755802226974789
So, we throwing in the towel and settling for 10th place? Or we can win tomorrow without Curry and Wiggins, and possibly JK?
Tomorrow’s game might be a good time for JK to return, if he’s cleared.
I expect that Steph taking a game off is a sign that they expect to have JK available.
Either way, STEPH would be playing, with LoLakers UP next, if we considered it a MUST WIN. Methinks REST, HEALING, & GAME RECONDITIONING is top priority now.
So when will slater report on Drays back problem, which is very frequent when Steph is not playing.
Jazz are tanking and have lost 11 straight. Seems like an excellent night to give Steph some rest, particularly with the Lakers coming up on Tuesday.
Jazz doesn't have Markkanen, Clarkson, Collins, and Kessler. We should be able to beat them without Curry.
Probably the former...rest. Methinks we pretty much have locked 10th...what is it, either 1 win for us or 1 HOUSTON loss...KLAY had some knee tenderness also; frankly, I was surprised he played Vs MAVS after we beat HOUSTON.
Leaving open both possibilities. If we win, we can still make a run for #8. If we lose, we can start packing it in and resting guys for the play-in(s). Either way, we get Steph a few days of much needed rest.
WOW. Right now, it looks like SAC has the inside track to #9 and playing us. LoLAKERS are playing themselves to a game VS PELS and #7 slot, so, we may have to beat PELS after SAC for the #8 slot and the opportunity to beat DENVER in 4 straight....lol Obviously, I think SUNS will not drop, and DENVER will finish on top of T-WOLVES...
I agree that the Suns are *most likely* out of the play-in, but we’re still talking like a 70% chance.
Assuming for the sake of simplicity that they’re safely in the playoffs: any of the Lakers, Pels, and Kings could still be the Warriors’ play-in opponents. They could play one or two of them, in any order.
Any of Denver, Minny, and OKC could still be their first round playoff opponent, if they get that far.
Way too soon to start assuming one of the many possible scenarios. The only thing we know for sure is that the Rockets are out, and the top five (DEN, OKC, MIN, LAC, DAL) are in.
A lot of the final seeding will depend on the Pels, since they still play games against all three play-in teams (Lakers, Kings, Dubs) they are currently ahead of.
No doubt, and, as usual, you are spot on. As you know, I enjoy prognasticating as far ahead as possible; in this case, 5 games...lol. Methinks, if we had beat the MAVS, KERR may have pushed it. After they squeezed a win, given our injury/aches-n-pains, REST/HEAL, as you correctly pointed out earlier, METHINKS became TOP KERR PRIORITY for possible 2-game play-in..
Minny. I get that the play in is an elimination game, but I don’t get as much the hand wringing about having to beat great teams in playoff series. This is the playoffs… that’s how it goes.
Sure hope so, otherwise we may see LoLakers or DENVER in 2d round. Either way, it seems we have to go through DENVER in 1st or 2nd Round in our best-case scenarios? (edited after your edit, above): No hand wringing, just hate how SUNS and LoLakers put themselves in a better position while we were reinventing the wheel....
If they make the playoffs and keep winning, they could just as easily avoid Denver till the WCF as face them in the opening round.
No doubt. I just think DENVER will finish on top. Home court advantage is what will drive them. Agree, all possibilities are still on the table...
We have to go through great teams. Deal with it 🤷
Lol. We're the GREATEST! BELIEVE! THEY have to go through US!
Post-ASB off. and def. efficiency for teams in the Pacific Division:
Clippers: #6 offense, #26 defense
Suns: #11 offense, #14 defense
Kings: #8 offense, #13 defense
Lakers: #4 offense, #22 defense
Warriors: #14 offense, #7 defense
Where do FTs come into play? Offense or defense? If offense, wouldn’t that put the Lakers in #1?
-Lakers have been scorching hot on offense since the ASB. Only the Celtics, Pacers, and Nuggets have had a better off. efficiency than them.
-Warriors have played solid defense since the ASB.
-Clippers also have had a very good offense since the ASB, but it has been offset by their poor defense due to injuries.
-Kings and Suns have had a solid performance since the ASB even with the injuries.
Lakers beating the Cavs is a double-edged sword — decreases the chances of us getting to #8 or 9, but increases the chances of us not facing the Lakers in the #9-10.
Having to beat the Kings and Pels to get the #8 seed would be no picnic, but it seems like we might be trending that way.
light years
Great job Cavs!
I saw Wiseman come up in the other thread about even if he got more college experience he would still not be a great basketball player. Made me wonder, from what you've seen, what other sports would he be better at dominating given his physical talent??
High jumping
Volleyball?
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With that loss, the odds of us making the 7/8 play-in game and winning that game to earn the 7 seed dropped from 7.3% to 4.2%. Worst case scenario, we don't rest Curry/Klay/Green/Cp3/GP2 anyone else with lingering injuries.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/playoff_prob.html
Why wasn't TJD in the closing lineup? He out rebounded their bigs so many times in the minutes he was in. I can't help but believe that TJD would have made the winning difference down the stretch blocking or altering a shot or two in the paint, getting a few more rebounds than we got, and scoring on Alley Oops or feeds from Klay or CP3 or Steph or whomever. It's obvious that in crunch time teams are doubling Curry and Klay. But without Kuminga or Wiggins as an outlet scoring option TJD has taken on that role very often, in a different way of course. And when you could have put in a player who would not only make a difference defensively in the paint as well as offensively, that seems like a no brainer. Podz made some bad decisions, took some crazy bad shots around the rim and is not athletic enough to prevent athletic guys from blowing by him. With no Kuminga or Wiggs as defenders and scoring options when Steph and Klay are covered, give me TJD as a scoring option any day over Podz. Bottom line, if TJD was in the closing lineup, in my opinion we win by 4 or more.
Why? Steve Kerr.
Last night’s game:
Warriors with TJD on the floor -26
Warriors with TJD on the bench +24
Counterfactual assertions are impossible to prove or disprove, but this one in particular seems like a bit of stretch.
The question that comes to mind is who was on the floor with him? Often, the starters have a minus rating.
Is it accurate to say that the Warrior season has been split in two, more or less? That the first half with missed time from Draymond and others, and Klay and Wiggins not being themselves, and newcomers getting adjusted, and Kerr trying to figure out what he had in the younger players and what lineups work; is very different from the second half, when the team seems to more or less be rolling, yet facing an uphill climb?
Seems like that to me, although I'm not sure the wins count strictly follows that analysis. I just get this optimism, imagining some play in scenario where we are at least minimally rested, have a lot of momentum from a lot of easy wins coming up, have a clearer sense of roles and plays, and more playoff experience than anyone, and then we crush all in our path. Willing to hear counterarguments.
I agree with the split season appearance of things , and hope that the team can get at least minimally rested. That should carry over the momentum and optimisim if they can get out of the play in and into 7 game series..
Also, healthy. Right now it seems like half the team is dealing with a knee /leg/foot problem.
Making the playoffs is hard (in the West)
Please let's kill conferences and go 1-16. It's so annoying.
Saw a tweet recently that was like:
When the NBA finally expands to 32 teams the winners will be the 2 West teams that get to move to the East
It’s gonna be interesting to see what they do with the 4x cali teams… keep them together? Or pair GSW/SAC with POR/SEA and LAL/LAC with PHX/LAV? I’d lean to the latter. Then have UTA/DEN/OKC/MIN together and SAS/DAL/HOU/NOP together, shipping MEM to the East.
Why would the East go to 17 teams (15+2) and the West stay at 15 (15+2-2)? Mathematically, only one West team would go to the East to give both conferences 16 teams.
IMO it should be the T-Wolves who move, they are close to Milwaukee, Chicago, and sorta close to Detroit, Indiana, Cleveland, Toronto.
In the West, their closest teams are Denver and Memphis, both of which are further away than the teams named above.
The assumptions I've seen is Vegas and Seattle will get teams.
And then you have like New Orleans and Memphis that are already pretty east already.
Only need to move one team, so should be Memphis, let them play Miami, Atlanta, and Orlando or something…
It’s that the expansion teams will be in Seattle and somewhere else in the western part of the country, so Memphis will shift from the Western conference to the East.
Finally "No problems in the west" will be true for their playoff aspirations.
Looking at stats Claxton was also pretty bad, canceled each other out lol
Easy to understand, he sucks.........