Does anyone else think losing Tyus Jones for Marcus Smart is a downgrade? The Grizz were really good with Jones, who’s a better PG than Smart IMO. Smart’s a better defender but the Grizz were already elite defensively with Jones. I know they supposedly got Smart for the leadership/culture but I think they got worse, not better.
Been less and less of a baseball fan as the years have gone but I hope Ohtani leaves the Angels (just swept by the Dodgers) and is able to sign with the Giants. Ohtani in San Francisco would be like when Bonds signed with San Francisco.
I haven't seen mentioned that BOS made a great move from FRP perspective. They upgrade the 35th pick in this year's draft (basically a high 2nd round pick) to MEM's 25th, and also roll the dice that the Dubs will gift them a good pick next year.
Some people felt that Smart had lost a step this year, and if the Celtics had come to the same conclusion, this makes a lot of sense. They'll need a backup PG, and god knows whether KP will have any impact at all, but if they were moving on, this is a great reward.
Kinda feel for Marcus Smart. He flops too much, but he plays hard and got so close to winning it all with that team. Now he's on the Grizzlies, all because of Brogdon's verkakte arm.
Mainly for my own posterity. Here's my 2023 draft board for the Warriors. Really focusing on fit for the team as presently constituted with an eye on future upside.
Bufkin - In the off chance he falls. Great guard prospect. On offense I love the mix of his first step burst, plus the herky jerky game that really
Leonard Miller - Great versatile PF prospect. The defensive versatility, rebounding, ball handling are enough to be a very playoff winning 4 even if he’s never a great shooter. Could be a better version of Aaron Gordon.
Jaime Jacquez - Has a very high floor as a hustling role player forward who can screen, pass, defend and would figure out the Warrior system very quickly. I’m intrigued if he can become a solid 3P shooter and be able to leverage that into attacking closeouts with his high level footwork. Either getting easy post touches or drawing fouls.
Trayce Jackson Davis - Has a lot of what has made Xavier Tillman a solid playoff rotation big man immediately. Perimeter switchability with some rim protection, rebounding and good passing/screening instincts on O. He’s a much bouncier athlete and a scoring threat. The ability to do the dribble hand off game while being a real threat to dribble and dunk. Could see his best case scenario as like 85-90% of Bam Adebayo.
Derek Lively - I like the mix of the defensive upside with a bit of passing ability. I think that lack of scoring instinct really caps the upside. Good, not great prospect IMO.
Dariq Whitehead - I really like that shooting stroke. If the injuries looked OK long term I’d have him higher than Lively for sure, and could see the case to taking a long term shot.
Olivier Maxence Prosper - Great size for a wing. 6’8 220 and 7’ wingspan. Good feet for defense. Good athlete and good feel for cutting, transition and finishing. Not a bad shooter. Could be an elite defense guy who can hit some shots.
Jordan Hawkins - Likely to be a very solid 3P shooter. But he could be the rare movement shooter who also could be a very solid defender. Those are typically excellent starters.
Colby Jones - This type of guard can play a long time. Really good D. Solid passer and decision maker. Can hit some shots. Just no burst. Think he’s an average starter at best, and more likely a solid backup.
Brandon Podziemski - The shot is good. The rebounding and steal rate means he plays hard and seemingly has some sneaky athleticism. Could he be a Luke Kennard who at least contributes something on D? Maybe. But I’m also pretty down on him. He’s really small. His standing reach is a little smaller than Stephs. Got blown by a lot on D AND didn’t really take anyone off the dribble. He just seems like a weird combo to me.
Kris Murray - He is likely to be a decent rotation forward, and could help soon, but I’m not sure there’s much there beyond that. Don’t see him being a high level defender or shooter.
Other young guys I like, but don’t think we’ll take:
Nnaji - Huge frame. Great athlete and motor. Will be a basic offensive player, but he could have more versatility on D then your Clint Capela types.
Cissoko - Great size for a wing with some passing ability
Rupert - Great wingspan. Plays really hard on D.
Kukevski - Wouldn’t be shocked if we took him. Great stroke for a stretch big. Like a Kelly Olynyk probably never a starter, but likely a long time valuable rotation guy. He has true C height and length 6’11/7’2.5” which is usually not the case for this type of stretch big.
Well, if the Warriors are terrible next season, I'd rather the Celtics benefit from that than the Grizzlies. So I'd call the Warriors a winner in that deal.
Wonder if the Wizards decline Muscala's team option.
What a day for Brogdon - gone, then back, now the starter?
Did NOT see Marcus Smart leaving the Celtics. He definitely had a down year and looked slow in the playoffs. Bold move by the Celtics, but I am not a KP believer.
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Does anyone else think losing Tyus Jones for Marcus Smart is a downgrade? The Grizz were really good with Jones, who’s a better PG than Smart IMO. Smart’s a better defender but the Grizz were already elite defensively with Jones. I know they supposedly got Smart for the leadership/culture but I think they got worse, not better.
Holy Shit. I'm starting to believe the hype on VW:
https://youtu.be/tavSad_ypXY?t=120
Been less and less of a baseball fan as the years have gone but I hope Ohtani leaves the Angels (just swept by the Dodgers) and is able to sign with the Giants. Ohtani in San Francisco would be like when Bonds signed with San Francisco.
Marcus Smart being traded to the Grizzlies means double the opportunity for him to flop into/injure the Dubs. Boo!
I haven't seen mentioned that BOS made a great move from FRP perspective. They upgrade the 35th pick in this year's draft (basically a high 2nd round pick) to MEM's 25th, and also roll the dice that the Dubs will gift them a good pick next year.
Some people felt that Smart had lost a step this year, and if the Celtics had come to the same conclusion, this makes a lot of sense. They'll need a backup PG, and god knows whether KP will have any impact at all, but if they were moving on, this is a great reward.
Kinda feel for Marcus Smart. He flops too much, but he plays hard and got so close to winning it all with that team. Now he's on the Grizzlies, all because of Brogdon's verkakte arm.
Celtics roster: Brown, Tatum, Brogdon, White, Porzingis, Horford, Williams III, G. Williams, Pritchard, Hauser.
So what's the Celtics new starting lineup now that they have Porzingis and lost Smart? Is it gonna be Brogdon, Brown, White, Tatum, and Porzingis?
Brogdon's arm must really be cooked for the Clippers to nix that trade.
Even when your hair bleeds green ,,, there are no guarantees in Boston.
Mainly for my own posterity. Here's my 2023 draft board for the Warriors. Really focusing on fit for the team as presently constituted with an eye on future upside.
Bufkin - In the off chance he falls. Great guard prospect. On offense I love the mix of his first step burst, plus the herky jerky game that really
Leonard Miller - Great versatile PF prospect. The defensive versatility, rebounding, ball handling are enough to be a very playoff winning 4 even if he’s never a great shooter. Could be a better version of Aaron Gordon.
Jaime Jacquez - Has a very high floor as a hustling role player forward who can screen, pass, defend and would figure out the Warrior system very quickly. I’m intrigued if he can become a solid 3P shooter and be able to leverage that into attacking closeouts with his high level footwork. Either getting easy post touches or drawing fouls.
Trayce Jackson Davis - Has a lot of what has made Xavier Tillman a solid playoff rotation big man immediately. Perimeter switchability with some rim protection, rebounding and good passing/screening instincts on O. He’s a much bouncier athlete and a scoring threat. The ability to do the dribble hand off game while being a real threat to dribble and dunk. Could see his best case scenario as like 85-90% of Bam Adebayo.
Derek Lively - I like the mix of the defensive upside with a bit of passing ability. I think that lack of scoring instinct really caps the upside. Good, not great prospect IMO.
Dariq Whitehead - I really like that shooting stroke. If the injuries looked OK long term I’d have him higher than Lively for sure, and could see the case to taking a long term shot.
Olivier Maxence Prosper - Great size for a wing. 6’8 220 and 7’ wingspan. Good feet for defense. Good athlete and good feel for cutting, transition and finishing. Not a bad shooter. Could be an elite defense guy who can hit some shots.
Jordan Hawkins - Likely to be a very solid 3P shooter. But he could be the rare movement shooter who also could be a very solid defender. Those are typically excellent starters.
Colby Jones - This type of guard can play a long time. Really good D. Solid passer and decision maker. Can hit some shots. Just no burst. Think he’s an average starter at best, and more likely a solid backup.
Brandon Podziemski - The shot is good. The rebounding and steal rate means he plays hard and seemingly has some sneaky athleticism. Could he be a Luke Kennard who at least contributes something on D? Maybe. But I’m also pretty down on him. He’s really small. His standing reach is a little smaller than Stephs. Got blown by a lot on D AND didn’t really take anyone off the dribble. He just seems like a weird combo to me.
Kris Murray - He is likely to be a decent rotation forward, and could help soon, but I’m not sure there’s much there beyond that. Don’t see him being a high level defender or shooter.
Other young guys I like, but don’t think we’ll take:
Nnaji - Huge frame. Great athlete and motor. Will be a basic offensive player, but he could have more versatility on D then your Clint Capela types.
Cissoko - Great size for a wing with some passing ability
Rupert - Great wingspan. Plays really hard on D.
Kukevski - Wouldn’t be shocked if we took him. Great stroke for a stretch big. Like a Kelly Olynyk probably never a starter, but likely a long time valuable rotation guy. He has true C height and length 6’11/7’2.5” which is usually not the case for this type of stretch big.
Announce Mike Muscala to the Warriors already!!
Well, if the Warriors are terrible next season, I'd rather the Celtics benefit from that than the Grizzlies. So I'd call the Warriors a winner in that deal.
Wonder if the Wizards decline Muscala's team option.
What a day for Brogdon - gone, then back, now the starter?
Did NOT see Marcus Smart leaving the Celtics. He definitely had a down year and looked slow in the playoffs. Bold move by the Celtics, but I am not a KP believer.
Three-time All-Star forward Khris Middleton has declined his $40 million player option with the Milwaukee Bucks to become a free agent
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1671730267227148289
Washington is completing a three-way deal with Boston and Memphis that will send guard Tyus Jones to the Wizards, sources tell ESPN.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1671728593515212800