Imagine if someone had told you this time last year that this season we’d be up 1-0 in the Conference semis, led by our beloved star duo of Jimmy Butler and Buddy Hield.
What a refreshing change of personality. Last season, Klay often looked miffed and clearly wasn't happy with how Kerr and the Dubs were treating him. While Buddy's often joking around with teammates whether he's starting, coming off the bench - trying to do whatever the team needs him to do.
KLAY had a good reason to feel that way....after getting bounced around on several teams, BUDDY is glad he found a home...I thought BUDDY should have started at the get go...
ah ok. i’m australian so have never encountered Buddard as a thing. butter, i’m very familiar with. i have to hold myself from adding butter into everything i cook. it’s something i see eye to eye with the french on.
Lol no I don't think you're wrong or anything, not like Buddard is actually a name (to my knowledge). That's just how I read it. And butter makes everything taste better so it's hard to not use it very liberally!
Of course I want Steph back immediately or sooner. But I am not despairing about our chances of beating the timberpups without him, for 1 game, 3 games, or the series.
I'm not naive -- we're a heck of a lot better with him. But also: we just beat them without him. Yesterday. I did not hallucinate that. We can say they were rusty, we can say it helped that we got off to a fast start with him in there, we can say that they won't shoot that badly again. Sure. But the bottom line is, I think that our lineup without him is roughly equivalent to their team. They are not some sorcerers such that only the Steph Amulet can protect us. If our team plays to its potential these are evenly matched teams without him. Our coaching is better, our defense is better, our three point shooting is apparently ten times better, our experience is better. I'm not guaranteeing anything, but I refuse to think of us as some hodgepodge of limpy old insufficient retreads plus naive younguns, who must pray to tread water until Steph returns. Heck with that. Let's sweep these Gobertians.
I don’t know. Basketball is a funny game in that one game can way overstate the true reality of two teams.
Minnesota is a good team and beating them even one more time without Steph is going to be very difficult in my opinion.
A very tough matchup for us under normal conditions. Now if the 4th best 3 point shooting team in the league has suddenly become the worst, like their last 2 games, that gjves me hope, but don’t think we can expect that horrible shooting. They aren’t Houston.
They aren't Houston, but that also means that Chris Finch isn't Ime Udoka. I just don't expect Minnesota to play with the same discipline that Udoka got out of his players. I think this will be a tough series because the Wolves have better players than the Rockets, but I think we are a more well-oiled machine, and I do think we've got a chance at winning at least one without Steph (and that's all we really need to do).
I'm with you on not being worried about the Timberwolves, but I am worried about the long term impact of the hamstring injury. These things are notoriously hard to deal with, hard to play confidently on... If we are able to get past the Timberwolves, we still have another ~10-12 games of high intensity, high effort games that Steph would have to fight through, against teams that we will not be able to beat without the Steph Amulet in full force. But, come what may, I will enjoy watching this team compete, and hopefully that includes more Steph games and more series after this one.
Hey guys I’m feeling very optimistic based on Steph’s prognosis. Grade 1 sprain is the best outcome we can ask for.
The silver lining is Steph can get the rest he needs after a long 7 game series where he was fouled every possession. His Hulk size thumb can stop being so angry. While he stretches out his hammy.
We beat the Wolves without him yesterday. We just need to win 1 out of the next 3 games before he comes back, 2-2 or shoot just go 4-0. This also gives JK some possible run to boost his value either for us or for another interested suitor.
MINNEAPOLIS -- Timberwolves coach Chris Finch said his team submitted clips to the league office that showed what he believes was egregious contact made against center Rudy Gobert in Minnesota's 99-88 Game 1 loss to the Golden State Warriors on Tuesday, none of which was called by the officials.
"On defensive rebounding, they do a lot of fouling, shoving, holding, pushing and tackling Rudy," Finch said after practice Wednesday. "That's clear. We sent a bunch of those clips into the league. In fact, I'm not sure I know another player in the league with Rudy's pedigree that is allowed to be physically beaten on the way he is. And so, we've got to address that one way or another."
WTF is this? Is it a joke? I thought the Wolves' coach saw the Houston Rockets series; did he choose not to watch all those egregious fouls on Steph? What about the game against them? Didn't he watch some of his players use the same tactics to maul Steph? Give me a break!
Edited to correct mail to maul. Wolves DID NOT use Rockets tactics to "mail" Steph.
So everybody is supposed to just clear out and let Rudy get the ball? I dare say that there are plenty of clips of T-Wolves shoving, holding, pushing and tackling to get to rebounds. That isn't unique to the playoffs, that is pretty much how basketball has always been played.
Bah-hah-hah-ha! Poor wittle Rudy. How embarrassing for him. Compared to what Houston was doing for 7 games, this is not much. I'm assuming Finch is trying to push this narrative with the league to set up an easier flagrant/tech situation for Dray, seeing as he & JB are our remaining cornerstones.
The thing that gets me is the implication that it is OK to push, shove, hold or tackle a player of lower "pedigree" (by which I think he means actually height) than Rudy.
I have no problems with his tactics. I wish we would talk about Steph getting held off ball and fouled on 3s more often. It takes away from the game. Who doesnt like a curry mcflurry
Warriors head coach Steve Kerr, not surprisingly, offered a different perspective — starting with how teams are defending Stephen Curry.
“I was upset the first 10 minutes of the game, it was just like Houston all over again,” Kerr said. “They were bear-hugging Steph, they could have called six fouls. But the league has established the physicality in the playoffs. Chris talked about it last week.
“Just the overall physicality — to me, it’s crazy out there what’s happening. Everybody is fouling each other. They (the refs) have a really hard job, playoff basketball is physical. But I think they could have called a foul six or seven straight possessions with them guarding Steph. So I’ve got my complaints, too, trust me.
“We watch the tape and see all the fouls on them that aren’t called. They watch the tape and see all the ones on us that aren’t called. I’m getting ready to send my own clips into the league.”
My biggest concern with the Steph injury is that JB is already playing more hurt than he's letting on and him having to carry the team is frightening in terms of him aggravating his injury. I hope I'm wrong, of course, but he hasn't looked great in terms of his fluidity of movement since the fall.
Medical stuff is not my forte. We have some posters here that would know more. JB's injury was reportedly a pelvis and deep gluteal muscle contusion. From what I have read, that is essentially a bruise in the pelvic area. I saw nothing in the NBA report about a muscle strain. Y'all correct me if I'm mistaken.
However, JB draws a lot of fouls and often falls on his back/butt. That can't help.
To me it's apparent that he's a little more tentative inside lately, almost always looking to pass unless he's got a relatively uncontested jumper. If I'm right about that, then it's smart. And as he heals, he can get more aggressive.
Agree with all that is written. (I’m a 65 y/o ER doc who’s seen lots of hammies).
The MR scan is not going to be as useful as Steph’s own senses. It’s nice that it can’t document a grade 2 tear but there is still all kinds of variance in recovery and risk of reinjury. The docs and trainers will rely primarily on what Steph feels when he is tested. Steph will want to get back. There will be more risk tolerance as this is an elimination situation and you don’t have to consider optimizing his health for end of the season. I’d guess he’s back sooner than the standard recommendations and will take his chances.
WAG: Maybe game 5 or 6 depending?? Certainly longer if they keep winning without him.
"What is return time for grade 1 hamstring strain in NBA"
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The recovery time for a Grade 1 hamstring strain in the NBA typically ranges from 1 to 3 weeks, depending on the severity of the strain and the player's rehabilitation progress. For instance, Devin Booker of the Phoenix Suns was expected to miss 2 to 3 weeks due to a Grade 1 hamstring strain in 2022 . Similarly, Tyrese Haliburton of the Indiana Pacers was diagnosed with a Grade 1 hamstring strain in January 2024 and was expected to be re-evaluated in approximately two weeks.
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A Grade 1 hamstring strain in the NBA typically has a return time of at least one week, with a common range of 7 to 10 days.
However, several factors can influence the exact return timeline, including:
* Severity of the strain: Even within Grade 1, there can be variations in the extent of the muscle fiber damage.
* Individual healing: Each player's body heals at a different rate.
* Response to rehabilitation: How well the player responds to treatment and physical therapy will impact their return.
* Risk of re-injury: The team's medical staff will want to ensure the hamstring is strong and flexible enough to withstand the demands of NBA play to minimize the risk of recurrence.
It's important to note that rushing back too quickly from a hamstring strain can increase the risk of a more severe injury
For game 3, am hoping the bandwagon tech bros and fair weather fans sell their tickets at discount so we’re able to revive the underdog energy of Roaracle. A raucous crowd that has more regulars and are without the nervous, puckered emotions of being the favorite.
I don't understand this notion that cheap tickets leads to more invested fans. I remember a game at Oracle, maybe 2015, we had cheap tickets in the upper section somewhere. Next to us was a group of guys who seemed more interested in Bumble on their phones than the basketball game in front of them.
Cheap tickets enable more people to afford the game; whether they're "real fans" or just dropping by on a lark is a different issue.
I think the idea is that cheaper tickets allowed working-class fans who actually live in the area, and are thus more invested in the team, to attend the games, rather than rich transplants who are less invested. I don’t know if this holds true in practice, but I do get the idea.
Notably, that was still Oracle. :-) That place also had an amplifying effect for noise, I think, because of all the concrete. Terrible acoustics to an audiophile, excellent for a raucous home crowd.
Haven’t been to a game at Chase, but is it really that different and full of tech bros? People I know with season tix at Oracle still bought them at Chase?
Can’t speak with 100% certainty but there have been some articles written. Fans are too lazy/indifferent to wear the free spirit t-shirts during the playoffs. We’ve all observed that the crowd isn’t nearly as loud as early dynasty. Perhaps this is just bc of expectations but after watching years of games, you do see different people in the front rows… no longer see the enthusiastic blonde lady nor the muscular guy with the foam finger… assuming many have simply been priced out…
As someone who has actually been to several playoff games at Chase, I feel like these articles can be exaggerated somewhat. A good friend of mine went to Game 4 of the Houston series and said that the arena was raucous and there were more WAAARRIORSS chants than he could remember in a long time, even at Roaracle.
I think a problem with the national broadcasts like TNT or ESPN is that they artificially mute the crowd sound in order for their commentary to be more audible, which is something I hate because the crowd is usually more interesting than the commentary.
The current plan is for Steph Curry to stay in Minnesota with the team and begin his rehab process with Rick Celebrini on the road. Team flies back to the Bay Area after the game tomorrow night. This is Curry’s first soft tissue injury since an adductor strain in Nov 2018.
Godspeed Steph! The one sort of fun way for me to think about this is can we turn into a good impression of the early 20's Heat for at least one game over the next three?
The 2023 Heat playoff rotation, in order of minutes was:
Jimmy Butler 39.7
Bam Adebayo 37.0
Gabe Vincent 30.0
Caleb Martin 30.2
Max Strus 28.2
Kyle Lowry 26.0
Duncan Robinson 18.2
Kevin Love 18.0
We just need to go 1-2 over the next three games to give ourselves a shot. We've gotta have a playoff Jimmy plus scrappy Miami defense style win.
Yeah, I hope Steph can come back by game 5. Maybe that's unrealistic.
If we're tied 2-2 and he's back I like our odds. It allows for a disjointed game and two good ones.
If we're down 2-3 with Steph coming back we certainly have a chance. But you need to be perfect, and that's hard to do with someone coming back from an injury in two must win games.
Plus Steph's game usually relies on him constantly being in motion, getting past defenders and into the paint at times, and having his legs under him for long jumpers. After resting his hammy for at least a week or more, will he be able to do that? And will he be on restricted minutes?
If it’s mostly healed, and he can get it loose, I don’t think it will be a huge factor. He might lose some quickness and explosiveness but I doubt it affects his shot or conditioning.
Jrue had a hamstring strain. He was out from April 23 to May 5. Came back and played 39 minutes and looked great. We don’t know, but likely he could have played sooner if that’s what schedule needed.
Harden had what was alleged to be a grade 2 tear in 2021 while playing for Nets against Bucks. Injured 6/5, back 6/13. Came back and averaged almost 47 minutes per game over last three games. He was pretty limited, but they said that was an grade 2
I liked what Kerr said about Butler being such a smart game manager in the second half with a big lead and knowing that a shot clock violation beats a stupid turnover.
Also, keeps the other team from grabbing monster momentum after just a couple of risky/careless plays that were “full of excitement” but super unnecessary.
This may be yet another unexpected benefit of the Butler acquisition - ending the Warriors curse of the 20+ pt lead.
Me too. I joked on my text thread the 4th quarter reminded me of a Jim Harbaugh Niners 4th quarter. Don't turn it over. Run the clock. Play D. Make a key play or two.
To be clear, my sadness is about someone growing up with marginal literacy, not Butler's interaction with Buddy. Same thing I felt about Monta.
Growing up with a love of books made me what I am, in almost every respect. I know people who don't read, but none who possibly can't read. I can't even imagine what that would be like, other than that my world would have been much smaller.
ftom what i’ve heard, it was buddy who started the vicious jibes with jimmy and both of them are enjoying it. i imagine that jimmy is the kind of star that doesn’t want to be treated differently by teammates so is happy to have someone treat him like one of the gang.
Greetings from London. Looks like a great game except Steph getting hurt. Thank you Eric for the E1P and especialy the Jimmy & Buddy interview. Laughed out loud with tears. Well done after a day of rangling bags off an Virgin Plane down to the via not graded fun at 70! Then on to the Underground--sorry deary "extreme delays" on NV thrle Piccadiliy line and construction on that bit. So no worries you go to Paddingrom Station instead then try to find the District line going wast to Wimbledon. But not that's right you get off at Earl's. Had lots of help and someone finaly got it right. I jave no seen a basket balll anywhere. Plenty of soccer and rugby pitches...
This at the Victoria and Albert Museum was a message. It said Enjoy!
I was definitely not expecting the Butler/Buddy standup routine to even be a thing let alone be one of the storylines in our playoff run when we first traded for Jimmy.
https://open.substack.com/pub/dubnation/p/road-warriors-snatch-game-1-vs-timberwolves?r=3lpzv&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true we're live on the new thread
24-13 Celtics after the 1st Q. Only 13 points by the Knicks so far? Wow.
I doubt they will hold the KNICKS to 31 at the half///lol BRUNSON will talk before this is over...but, I am going to watch it now....THANKS!
I love how good a lot of the defenses are this post-season.
Better than 11...
i’ve watched the jimmy and buttered show four times now. it is incredibly heartwarming to see colleagues be so openly affectionate and playful.
Imagine if someone had told you this time last year that this season we’d be up 1-0 in the Conference semis, led by our beloved star duo of Jimmy Butler and Buddy Hield.
LMAO...BINGO...a transformation is finally in progress...baby has been season-long overdue...
What a refreshing change of personality. Last season, Klay often looked miffed and clearly wasn't happy with how Kerr and the Dubs were treating him. While Buddy's often joking around with teammates whether he's starting, coming off the bench - trying to do whatever the team needs him to do.
KLAY had a good reason to feel that way....after getting bounced around on several teams, BUDDY is glad he found a home...I thought BUDDY should have started at the get go...
When Jimmy said it, I transliterated it as Buddard (Like Eddie from Edward) but Buttered is also pretty great given how smooth his shot was
I thought he did “Butters” like the South Park character.
ah ok. i’m australian so have never encountered Buddard as a thing. butter, i’m very familiar with. i have to hold myself from adding butter into everything i cook. it’s something i see eye to eye with the french on.
I hear it as Budder like my husband who is Bunny or Bunner :)
Lol no I don't think you're wrong or anything, not like Buddard is actually a name (to my knowledge). That's just how I read it. And butter makes everything taste better so it's hard to not use it very liberally!
I think you're correct because he did say Buddy was short for Buddard, (which doesn't make sense as Buttered, since his name isn't Butty)
Buttered, Healed.
That clarified things.
Ghee, it really did.
Jimmy Healed Butterd
Of course I want Steph back immediately or sooner. But I am not despairing about our chances of beating the timberpups without him, for 1 game, 3 games, or the series.
I'm not naive -- we're a heck of a lot better with him. But also: we just beat them without him. Yesterday. I did not hallucinate that. We can say they were rusty, we can say it helped that we got off to a fast start with him in there, we can say that they won't shoot that badly again. Sure. But the bottom line is, I think that our lineup without him is roughly equivalent to their team. They are not some sorcerers such that only the Steph Amulet can protect us. If our team plays to its potential these are evenly matched teams without him. Our coaching is better, our defense is better, our three point shooting is apparently ten times better, our experience is better. I'm not guaranteeing anything, but I refuse to think of us as some hodgepodge of limpy old insufficient retreads plus naive younguns, who must pray to tread water until Steph returns. Heck with that. Let's sweep these Gobertians.
I don’t know. Basketball is a funny game in that one game can way overstate the true reality of two teams.
Minnesota is a good team and beating them even one more time without Steph is going to be very difficult in my opinion.
A very tough matchup for us under normal conditions. Now if the 4th best 3 point shooting team in the league has suddenly become the worst, like their last 2 games, that gjves me hope, but don’t think we can expect that horrible shooting. They aren’t Houston.
They aren't Houston, but that also means that Chris Finch isn't Ime Udoka. I just don't expect Minnesota to play with the same discipline that Udoka got out of his players. I think this will be a tough series because the Wolves have better players than the Rockets, but I think we are a more well-oiled machine, and I do think we've got a chance at winning at least one without Steph (and that's all we really need to do).
I'm with you on not being worried about the Timberwolves, but I am worried about the long term impact of the hamstring injury. These things are notoriously hard to deal with, hard to play confidently on... If we are able to get past the Timberwolves, we still have another ~10-12 games of high intensity, high effort games that Steph would have to fight through, against teams that we will not be able to beat without the Steph Amulet in full force. But, come what may, I will enjoy watching this team compete, and hopefully that includes more Steph games and more series after this one.
Hey guys I’m feeling very optimistic based on Steph’s prognosis. Grade 1 sprain is the best outcome we can ask for.
The silver lining is Steph can get the rest he needs after a long 7 game series where he was fouled every possession. His Hulk size thumb can stop being so angry. While he stretches out his hammy.
We beat the Wolves without him yesterday. We just need to win 1 out of the next 3 games before he comes back, 2-2 or shoot just go 4-0. This also gives JK some possible run to boost his value either for us or for another interested suitor.
*11-0
MINNEAPOLIS -- Timberwolves coach Chris Finch said his team submitted clips to the league office that showed what he believes was egregious contact made against center Rudy Gobert in Minnesota's 99-88 Game 1 loss to the Golden State Warriors on Tuesday, none of which was called by the officials.
"On defensive rebounding, they do a lot of fouling, shoving, holding, pushing and tackling Rudy," Finch said after practice Wednesday. "That's clear. We sent a bunch of those clips into the league. In fact, I'm not sure I know another player in the league with Rudy's pedigree that is allowed to be physically beaten on the way he is. And so, we've got to address that one way or another."
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45042186/wolves-warriors-take-issue-officiating-game-1
Hey Finch - make sure you include photos of Podz’s BLACK EYE resulting from Rudy’s egregious, unnecessary whack to his face.
WTF is this? Is it a joke? I thought the Wolves' coach saw the Houston Rockets series; did he choose not to watch all those egregious fouls on Steph? What about the game against them? Didn't he watch some of his players use the same tactics to maul Steph? Give me a break!
Edited to correct mail to maul. Wolves DID NOT use Rockets tactics to "mail" Steph.
Steph doesn’t have Rudy’s pedigree.
THIS part was ridiculously hilarious!
Gobert is an absolute goon, this is so hilarious.
Oh Chris, I know of another player...
Just another example of how woeful the Lakers were. They couldn't even make the Timberwolves feel the playoff intensity.
So everybody is supposed to just clear out and let Rudy get the ball? I dare say that there are plenty of clips of T-Wolves shoving, holding, pushing and tackling to get to rebounds. That isn't unique to the playoffs, that is pretty much how basketball has always been played.
Bah-hah-hah-ha! Poor wittle Rudy. How embarrassing for him. Compared to what Houston was doing for 7 games, this is not much. I'm assuming Finch is trying to push this narrative with the league to set up an easier flagrant/tech situation for Dray, seeing as he & JB are our remaining cornerstones.
Softest big man in the NBA
The thing that gets me is the implication that it is OK to push, shove, hold or tackle a player of lower "pedigree" (by which I think he means actually height) than Rudy.
Soft coach too.
Yeah, they are lucky they didn't get Houston
I have no problems with his tactics. I wish we would talk about Steph getting held off ball and fouled on 3s more often. It takes away from the game. Who doesnt like a curry mcflurry
Steve agrees:
Warriors head coach Steve Kerr, not surprisingly, offered a different perspective — starting with how teams are defending Stephen Curry.
“I was upset the first 10 minutes of the game, it was just like Houston all over again,” Kerr said. “They were bear-hugging Steph, they could have called six fouls. But the league has established the physicality in the playoffs. Chris talked about it last week.
“Just the overall physicality — to me, it’s crazy out there what’s happening. Everybody is fouling each other. They (the refs) have a really hard job, playoff basketball is physical. But I think they could have called a foul six or seven straight possessions with them guarding Steph. So I’ve got my complaints, too, trust me.
“We watch the tape and see all the fouls on them that aren’t called. They watch the tape and see all the ones on us that aren’t called. I’m getting ready to send my own clips into the league.”
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/warriors/article/minnesota-coach-finch-laments-warriors-20315546.php
Good for you Kerr. Personally hand deliver that tape!
Go Steve!
My biggest concern with the Steph injury is that JB is already playing more hurt than he's letting on and him having to carry the team is frightening in terms of him aggravating his injury. I hope I'm wrong, of course, but he hasn't looked great in terms of his fluidity of movement since the fall.
If it’s just a bruise i wouldn’t worry about it too much. Think it’s just a pain management thing.
Medical stuff is not my forte. We have some posters here that would know more. JB's injury was reportedly a pelvis and deep gluteal muscle contusion. From what I have read, that is essentially a bruise in the pelvic area. I saw nothing in the NBA report about a muscle strain. Y'all correct me if I'm mistaken.
However, JB draws a lot of fouls and often falls on his back/butt. That can't help.
To me it's apparent that he's a little more tentative inside lately, almost always looking to pass unless he's got a relatively uncontested jumper. If I'm right about that, then it's smart. And as he heals, he can get more aggressive.
Yup. Kerr should pull him out pretty quickly in G2 if game gets out of hand (15 pt differential)
Anybody got a list of return times for Grade 1 hamstring injuries in regular season in recent years from around the league?
Agree with all that is written. (I’m a 65 y/o ER doc who’s seen lots of hammies).
The MR scan is not going to be as useful as Steph’s own senses. It’s nice that it can’t document a grade 2 tear but there is still all kinds of variance in recovery and risk of reinjury. The docs and trainers will rely primarily on what Steph feels when he is tested. Steph will want to get back. There will be more risk tolerance as this is an elimination situation and you don’t have to consider optimizing his health for end of the season. I’d guess he’s back sooner than the standard recommendations and will take his chances.
WAG: Maybe game 5 or 6 depending?? Certainly longer if they keep winning without him.
Do you know if there’s a rehab protocol involving movement, or is it usually “stay off it ‘til it gets better”?
Rehab will start with ice and rest to get past the inflammation and swelling stage.
Gentle stretching tightly limited by pain is next.
Ordinarily a strengthening stage would come next.
And then you would test the muscle with incremental tasks before running ad jumping.
If Steph has the tiniest of fibers torn, causing more spasm than real damage, then he may accelerate through this process.
Fingers crossed.
>>> And then you would test the muscle with incremental tasks before running ad jumping.
This is the difficult part, knowing how far to push the testing without the notorious re-injury, correct?
Thank you for explaining that. It helps to have that picture. Yes, fingers crossed.
"What is return time for grade 1 hamstring strain in NBA"
*********ChatGPT*********
The recovery time for a Grade 1 hamstring strain in the NBA typically ranges from 1 to 3 weeks, depending on the severity of the strain and the player's rehabilitation progress. For instance, Devin Booker of the Phoenix Suns was expected to miss 2 to 3 weeks due to a Grade 1 hamstring strain in 2022 . Similarly, Tyrese Haliburton of the Indiana Pacers was diagnosed with a Grade 1 hamstring strain in January 2024 and was expected to be re-evaluated in approximately two weeks.
**********Gemini**********
A Grade 1 hamstring strain in the NBA typically has a return time of at least one week, with a common range of 7 to 10 days.
However, several factors can influence the exact return timeline, including:
* Severity of the strain: Even within Grade 1, there can be variations in the extent of the muscle fiber damage.
* Individual healing: Each player's body heals at a different rate.
* Response to rehabilitation: How well the player responds to treatment and physical therapy will impact their return.
* Risk of re-injury: The team's medical staff will want to ensure the hamstring is strong and flexible enough to withstand the demands of NBA play to minimize the risk of recurrence.
It's important to note that rushing back too quickly from a hamstring strain can increase the risk of a more severe injury
Give me that 7 - 10 days.
2-3 weeks according to Jay Williams on espn…not that he’s a doctor.
Yeah, Dr. J's last name is Erving, not Williams. :)
For game 3, am hoping the bandwagon tech bros and fair weather fans sell their tickets at discount so we’re able to revive the underdog energy of Roaracle. A raucous crowd that has more regulars and are without the nervous, puckered emotions of being the favorite.
I don't understand this notion that cheap tickets leads to more invested fans. I remember a game at Oracle, maybe 2015, we had cheap tickets in the upper section somewhere. Next to us was a group of guys who seemed more interested in Bumble on their phones than the basketball game in front of them.
Cheap tickets enable more people to afford the game; whether they're "real fans" or just dropping by on a lark is a different issue.
I think the idea is that cheaper tickets allowed working-class fans who actually live in the area, and are thus more invested in the team, to attend the games, rather than rich transplants who are less invested. I don’t know if this holds true in practice, but I do get the idea.
I wasnt there for We Believe, but the Oracle Watch Party Warriors vs Rockets Game 7 in 2018 was the loudest I ever heard Oracle lol
Notably, that was still Oracle. :-) That place also had an amplifying effect for noise, I think, because of all the concrete. Terrible acoustics to an audiophile, excellent for a raucous home crowd.
Haven’t been to a game at Chase, but is it really that different and full of tech bros? People I know with season tix at Oracle still bought them at Chase?
Can’t speak with 100% certainty but there have been some articles written. Fans are too lazy/indifferent to wear the free spirit t-shirts during the playoffs. We’ve all observed that the crowd isn’t nearly as loud as early dynasty. Perhaps this is just bc of expectations but after watching years of games, you do see different people in the front rows… no longer see the enthusiastic blonde lady nor the muscular guy with the foam finger… assuming many have simply been priced out…
As someone who has actually been to several playoff games at Chase, I feel like these articles can be exaggerated somewhat. A good friend of mine went to Game 4 of the Houston series and said that the arena was raucous and there were more WAAARRIORSS chants than he could remember in a long time, even at Roaracle.
I think a problem with the national broadcasts like TNT or ESPN is that they artificially mute the crowd sound in order for their commentary to be more audible, which is something I hate because the crowd is usually more interesting than the commentary.
One of the things I miss most about those early years; camera seemed to always pick out great reactions from the roaracle crowd.
FYI from Slater:
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The current plan is for Steph Curry to stay in Minnesota with the team and begin his rehab process with Rick Celebrini on the road. Team flies back to the Bay Area after the game tomorrow night. This is Curry’s first soft tissue injury since an adductor strain in Nov 2018.
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Godspeed Steph! The one sort of fun way for me to think about this is can we turn into a good impression of the early 20's Heat for at least one game over the next three?
The 2023 Heat playoff rotation, in order of minutes was:
Jimmy Butler 39.7
Bam Adebayo 37.0
Gabe Vincent 30.0
Caleb Martin 30.2
Max Strus 28.2
Kyle Lowry 26.0
Duncan Robinson 18.2
Kevin Love 18.0
We just need to go 1-2 over the next three games to give ourselves a shot. We've gotta have a playoff Jimmy plus scrappy Miami defense style win.
1-3 over next 4 games? That's assuming Steph is back healthy by G6.
Yeah, I hope Steph can come back by game 5. Maybe that's unrealistic.
If we're tied 2-2 and he's back I like our odds. It allows for a disjointed game and two good ones.
If we're down 2-3 with Steph coming back we certainly have a chance. But you need to be perfect, and that's hard to do with someone coming back from an injury in two must win games.
Plus Steph's game usually relies on him constantly being in motion, getting past defenders and into the paint at times, and having his legs under him for long jumpers. After resting his hammy for at least a week or more, will he be able to do that? And will he be on restricted minutes?
If it’s mostly healed, and he can get it loose, I don’t think it will be a huge factor. He might lose some quickness and explosiveness but I doubt it affects his shot or conditioning.
Jrue had a hamstring strain. He was out from April 23 to May 5. Came back and played 39 minutes and looked great. We don’t know, but likely he could have played sooner if that’s what schedule needed.
Harden had what was alleged to be a grade 2 tear in 2021 while playing for Nets against Bucks. Injured 6/5, back 6/13. Came back and averaged almost 47 minutes per game over last three games. He was pretty limited, but they said that was an grade 2
TIL 30.0 > 30.2
But it makes sense because #30 is the greatest!
Ha, should be 30.5 for Vincent
I liked what Kerr said about Butler being such a smart game manager in the second half with a big lead and knowing that a shot clock violation beats a stupid turnover.
Also, keeps the other team from grabbing monster momentum after just a couple of risky/careless plays that were “full of excitement” but super unnecessary.
This may be yet another unexpected benefit of the Butler acquisition - ending the Warriors curse of the 20+ pt lead.
Starting to think maybe Kenny was the reason for all the blown leads
I blame Eric Cartman.
Pacers and Cavs fans would probably agree.
So it's good to have people with high BBIQ that can play the game.
This. We need more of this.
I low-key like 24 sec violations late in the game when we have a decent lead.
Me too. I joked on my text thread the 4th quarter reminded me of a Jim Harbaugh Niners 4th quarter. Don't turn it over. Run the clock. Play D. Make a key play or two.
Of course, having Gore as your running back in those 4th quarters made most of his decisions look good.
Gore running downhill after halftime is one my fondest memories of those teams.
Sticking the ball in Jimmy's hands is pretty good too.
Among other things there is no possibility for a transition bucket on a 24 second violation.
After this video I just have to say.
"Two Fingers"
I found that one a little sad, TBH. I'm wondering how literate Buddy is. Such a shame.
Buddy may know what the the Two fingers quotes are but could have been joking.
Yes. In my world, some of the things Jimmy does to Buddy would be considered vicious, but Buddy seems to be holding up.
To be clear, my sadness is about someone growing up with marginal literacy, not Butler's interaction with Buddy. Same thing I felt about Monta.
Growing up with a love of books made me what I am, in almost every respect. I know people who don't read, but none who possibly can't read. I can't even imagine what that would be like, other than that my world would have been much smaller.
Are you saying you think Buddy can't read, based on not knowing what air quotes are?
not just on that. There was another exchange where he couldn't spell a very common word.
Feel free to come to a different conclusion.
ftom what i’ve heard, it was buddy who started the vicious jibes with jimmy and both of them are enjoying it. i imagine that jimmy is the kind of star that doesn’t want to be treated differently by teammates so is happy to have someone treat him like one of the gang.
Greetings from London. Looks like a great game except Steph getting hurt. Thank you Eric for the E1P and especialy the Jimmy & Buddy interview. Laughed out loud with tears. Well done after a day of rangling bags off an Virgin Plane down to the via not graded fun at 70! Then on to the Underground--sorry deary "extreme delays" on NV thrle Piccadiliy line and construction on that bit. So no worries you go to Paddingrom Station instead then try to find the District line going wast to Wimbledon. But not that's right you get off at Earl's. Had lots of help and someone finaly got it right. I jave no seen a basket balll anywhere. Plenty of soccer and rugby pitches...
This at the Victoria and Albert Museum was a message. It said Enjoy!
Are you staying near the V&A? I recommend the Queens Arms for a pint :)
Actually in Earl's Court. Did quite the walk yesterday ending with a visit to the Kyoto Gardens in Holland Park. VE celebration today.
great recommendation!! i used to always go to the queens arms before seeing gigs at the royal albert hall.
Can’t beat that!
Moody is 3-17 from three in the Warriors' 5 playoff wins so far this postseason, and 9-18 from three in the Warriors' 3 playoff losses.
So while Steph is the Warriors' closer, Moody keeps the games closer.
I was definitely not expecting the Butler/Buddy standup routine to even be a thing let alone be one of the storylines in our playoff run when we first traded for Jimmy.
"Gary is always doing the dumbest stuff ever" - Buddy
"You literally wore the wrong shorts. The audacity" - Jimmy