Just coming back to say that I was SEVERELY disappointed that Dallas let the Clippers off the hook and allowed them to advance despite a 3-2 advantage and a two chances to close out the series, the first one at home. I do think the Clips are the more talented squad; I was just hoping the Mavs would send them packing with a first round loss.
That’s too general a statement to respond to. I agree that the West is there for the taking, but I’m not in favor of giving away JW at a time that he’ll be undervalued by the market. So, what’s the trade? JW and the 14th pick for an in his prime near all-star level player? Who are we talking about?
If it conveys this year, we could have a chance at a solid rookie who could contribute in 2-3 years, if it's next year we are stretching currys window to late thirties
Exactly. If Philly offered Embiid for Wiseman, heck yeah.
I’d only think about trading Wiseman if it’s bringing back a player who can help now AND is young enough be part of the next foundation with Poole and Wiggins.
Lakers are in trouble if that groin affects AD's play. They might beat the Suns anyways but they're breaking down at the wrong time. Now they can cool it with the repeat talk like it's so easy to win a championship.
Sorry, I can not root for any team in the playoffs, now that the Warriors are resting (Curry's fractured tailbone) up for the draft. However it's been real easy to switch interest to the Giants who are --as you are all well aware of--exceeding all expectations. Go Giants!
I'm not really "rooting" for anyone, rooting against sure (LA X2, NJ) but I still dig watching a lot of the games, they had a Godzilla marathon yesterday so that took center stage. And as a lifelong Giants fan I have not seen a game in a year and a half now. Screw AL style nurfed T-Ball and Screw the Giants ownership whit that Q shit and rape coverups.
The one consolation if the pick doesn’t convey is that what amounts to three (Wiseman and 2 picks) really raw young players might be tough to carry and develop, unless at least one is ready to contribute immediately (which is why Kispert seems to be on a lot of radars).
Not as dumb as if they traded all their assists for Beal or Oladipo or whatever ill fitting player was out there, and then got Steph or Dray seriously injured through running them into the ground as Klay Thompson watches from the sideline with a ruptured Achilles, just so they could say they “went for it” this year.
That’s a terrible take. Going from losing KD, to getting Wigs plus a lottery pick is masterful work by the FO. If you’re going to criticize the FO, then argue that the 14th pick isn’t worth not using the the DPE and full MLE (and the massive associated salary) to go all in this year.
Not particularly? We won the Wiggins-DLo swap easily *even if you don’t count the pick.* And the pick conveying would mean an unprotected first rounder next season. Wolves might be good next season, or they might not.
I'd bet on the pick conveying this year. But all we know are the odds.
I'm happy with the swap of Russell for Wiggins. The pick is gravy -- delicious gravy. If it lands relatively high (#4-6?), so much the better. But Minnesota already didn't pick Curry. I'll always be grateful to them.
Actually, I spun it ten more times “off line” after that sorry result and it conveyed all ten times, including once at #4. So I guess it’s now back in our system?
Either way, I think your approach is probably the right one, psychologically.
Imagine how stressed out we’ll be if we’ve gotten to the “pre-lotto commercial break” without the Wolves being called?
Itll happen that way. Lonnnng commercial break. Im a Raider fan, and whenever we are on the clock on draft day, perfect time to step away...everytime. MF'ers.
Agreed except I'd be fine with the Blazers over Denver. Respect for Denver, I have no problem with them winning, but Portland has Dame, and besides, I kinda like the city. I'd LOVE to see Boston take down the Netocracy but I suspect they will end up baked beans.
Off topic: Y’all might remember me talking about my YouTube video of gorillas mating that got 1 million views in 6 weeks. 3 weeks later it’s now at 2.3 million views. Apparently, I’ve provided the world with something neither of us knew it needed.
My natural reaction is to always root against LA teams. Why stop now? Clippers aren’t exactly hateable but they are bland, dull and not all that fun to watch. And yea, their deliberate bracket tweaking tank must be punished. A wonderful Sunday would include both LA teams losing though. Is that too much to ask for?
Before I moved here I liked the Wilt/West/Baylor/Goodrich Lakers and the Showtime Lakers but having lived here for 38 years (on and off for the first few years), I now want all LA teams to lose. BUT... I way prefer the Lakers to the Clips. If nothing else, I have liked Anthony Davis' game since he came into the league. I didn't pay much attention to the Clippers in San Diego (although they had Bill Walton) but I despised the Sterling-owned LA teams, and I have never warmed up to the Lob City bunch or this current bunch. I would like to see them thoroughly trounced.
Just coming back to say that I was SEVERELY disappointed that Dallas let the Clippers off the hook and allowed them to advance despite a 3-2 advantage and a two chances to close out the series, the first one at home. I do think the Clips are the more talented squad; I was just hoping the Mavs would send them packing with a first round loss.
Welp, this is what happens when Luka has an off night. Think this one might go to 7
Oy, what's going on with the Mavericks? They're 3/15 threes tonight so far.
Anthony Davis is hurt again? Yikes.
Not really rooting for Dallas but definitely rooting against the Clippers. So go Mavs!
If we get 14th pick and minny pick gets pushed back a year do you trade wiseman and go all in these next two years?
If the return is an All-NBA level wing or mobile big man (Embiid, Giannis, Kawhi), then yes.
If the return is an ill fitting star who plays a position we have filled (Beal) or a non-star (Khris Middleton, Myles Turner), then he’ll no.
That’s too general a statement to respond to. I agree that the West is there for the taking, but I’m not in favor of giving away JW at a time that he’ll be undervalued by the market. So, what’s the trade? JW and the 14th pick for an in his prime near all-star level player? Who are we talking about?
Nope. And neither will Bob.
As John Brown says, it depends. Question is unanswerable without specifics.
I’m also don’t see why whether the Minny pick conveys this year or next year changes the calculus one way or the other.
If it conveys this year, we could have a chance at a solid rookie who could contribute in 2-3 years, if it's next year we are stretching currys window to late thirties
It’s one year’s difference.
Pretty sure they’re going to let ping pong balls decide their plans for Wiseman.
*not going to let, d’oh
Exactly. If Philly offered Embiid for Wiseman, heck yeah.
I’d only think about trading Wiseman if it’s bringing back a player who can help now AND is young enough be part of the next foundation with Poole and Wiggins.
Depends on what we get back?
Lakers are in trouble if that groin affects AD's play. They might beat the Suns anyways but they're breaking down at the wrong time. Now they can cool it with the repeat talk like it's so easy to win a championship.
AD= always damaged
What happened?
Left groin strain
Those are annoying, ngl
Same. Still kinda dealing with it, just no pain right now
He had been battling back spasms
Knicks aren't ready for primetime but Trey and the Hawks will get a rude awakening when they face Philly in the next round
Sorry, I can not root for any team in the playoffs, now that the Warriors are resting (Curry's fractured tailbone) up for the draft. However it's been real easy to switch interest to the Giants who are --as you are all well aware of--exceeding all expectations. Go Giants!
I'm not really "rooting" for anyone, rooting against sure (LA X2, NJ) but I still dig watching a lot of the games, they had a Godzilla marathon yesterday so that took center stage. And as a lifelong Giants fan I have not seen a game in a year and a half now. Screw AL style nurfed T-Ball and Screw the Giants ownership whit that Q shit and rape coverups.
And A's! Bay baseball baby!
In Italy a lot of basketball fans go crazy for Luka. Not me, but I will never pick Clippers or Lakers in my whole life. Go Luka
Ten spins of the tankathon.com wheel, just for kicks and giggles...
1. #14
2. #14 and #8
3. #14 and #6
4. #14
5. #14
6. #14 and #7
7. #14 and #8
8. #14
9. #14
10. #14
Blehhh. Clearly, I’m just priming the pump for lotto night, when we pluck #1 and #4...
I tried it once and then stopped. Got #3 and #4. I'm looking for the 'save' button.
On my first spin, the Warriors got the #1 and #8 picks. I could live with that.
Damn, scenario #1 is a real possibility. I don't really care too much about the draft but that would honestly suck for the FO from their perspective
So is 4, 5, 8, 9 & 10!
Lol
2nd try I got #3 & #8.
5th try I got #1 & #7.
I think I like those odds a lot better than our current ones.
Don’t know the odds but I actually got 1 and 4 on my 15th try
5 tries for us to get #1. I'll stop there for some good luck lol
I'm mentally preparing for us to land at #14 and Minny keeping their pick
The one consolation if the pick doesn’t convey is that what amounts to three (Wiseman and 2 picks) really raw young players might be tough to carry and develop, unless at least one is ready to contribute immediately (which is why Kispert seems to be on a lot of radars).
How dumb would our FO look if that was the outcome lol
Dumb? how? Do they have a secret in to get us more ping pong balls?
Not as dumb as if they traded all their assists for Beal or Oladipo or whatever ill fitting player was out there, and then got Steph or Dray seriously injured through running them into the ground as Klay Thompson watches from the sideline with a ruptured Achilles, just so they could say they “went for it” this year.
That’s a terrible take. Going from losing KD, to getting Wigs plus a lottery pick is masterful work by the FO. If you’re going to criticize the FO, then argue that the 14th pick isn’t worth not using the the DPE and full MLE (and the massive associated salary) to go all in this year.
You think D’Lo for Wiggins + unprotected 2002 first rounder makes them dumb? I’d say it’s still really lopsided in GSW’s favor.
*2022
As long as the unprotected 2002 doesn’t end up being Mike Dunleavy Jr.? ;-P
LOL
Not particularly? We won the Wiggins-DLo swap easily *even if you don’t count the pick.* And the pick conveying would mean an unprotected first rounder next season. Wolves might be good next season, or they might not.
Id bet on them handing us a top 12 pick next season if they're healthy enough...esp if they get the 1st overall and land Cade
I'd bet on the pick conveying this year. But all we know are the odds.
I'm happy with the swap of Russell for Wiggins. The pick is gravy -- delicious gravy. If it lands relatively high (#4-6?), so much the better. But Minnesota already didn't pick Curry. I'll always be grateful to them.
Or Thompson two years later (they opted for Derrick Williams at #2 ahead of Klay or Kawhi...)
Well, hopefully I got it out of our system. :-)
Actually, I spun it ten more times “off line” after that sorry result and it conveyed all ten times, including once at #4. So I guess it’s now back in our system?
Either way, I think your approach is probably the right one, psychologically.
Imagine how stressed out we’ll be if we’ve gotten to the “pre-lotto commercial break” without the Wolves being called?
Itll happen that way. Lonnnng commercial break. Im a Raider fan, and whenever we are on the clock on draft day, perfect time to step away...everytime. MF'ers.
Gooooooo BOS, ATL, MIL (done), PHI (effectively done), PHO, UTA, DAL, DEN!!
Agreed except I'd be fine with the Blazers over Denver. Respect for Denver, I have no problem with them winning, but Portland has Dame, and besides, I kinda like the city. I'd LOVE to see Boston take down the Netocracy but I suspect they will end up baked beans.
Off topic: Y’all might remember me talking about my YouTube video of gorillas mating that got 1 million views in 6 weeks. 3 weeks later it’s now at 2.3 million views. Apparently, I’ve provided the world with something neither of us knew it needed.
It's an interesting video to be sure, amazing that you could get it. It's reminiscent of what the NBA refs do to certain teams at times. 😊
LOL!
LAC has a better chance at beating LAL imo than DAL does. So go LAC.
No more cute underdogs that don’t have a real shot against LAL like DEN last year. Keep the bracket as loaded as possible.
My natural reaction is to always root against LA teams. Why stop now? Clippers aren’t exactly hateable but they are bland, dull and not all that fun to watch. And yea, their deliberate bracket tweaking tank must be punished. A wonderful Sunday would include both LA teams losing though. Is that too much to ask for?
Before I moved here I liked the Wilt/West/Baylor/Goodrich Lakers and the Showtime Lakers but having lived here for 38 years (on and off for the first few years), I now want all LA teams to lose. BUT... I way prefer the Lakers to the Clips. If nothing else, I have liked Anthony Davis' game since he came into the league. I didn't pay much attention to the Clippers in San Diego (although they had Bill Walton) but I despised the Sterling-owned LA teams, and I have never warmed up to the Lob City bunch or this current bunch. I would like to see them thoroughly trounced.