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That rust is mostly off
Duby Dub Dubs (15 ♡):
I know I work here and stuff, but man… I loooove these! Great content and I always walk away smiling from the E1P experience. Thanks Apricot!!
Sleepy Freud (13 ♡):
I love the smell of E1P in the morning … it smells like … victory. 😊
Abaddon (12 ♡):
Always love getting the E1P in the morning - thank you!
In the "you can't diagram every play but I wish this one had made the cut" category; loved Draymond tiptoeing down the line and somehow managing to get the ball to Wiggins for the open dunk. Not really a lot to "diagram" but it was a great play.
Irrationally optimistic (7 ♡):
Either Wiseman is just a classy young man drinking all that greatness in OR hear me out here, he's just getting ready to spill the tea on trade season goings on.
It's really just a subtle signal.
Chasing Rings... (5 ♡):
The thing about E1P's is that when the game is slowed down enough I can see and follow way more of what's going on than in real time that it's crazy to think that in real time the game slows down for the elite players playing it. It's like Draymond lives inside E1P time!
Whew, close one. No easy wins on the road, but Golden State will take it
Goldarn Staid Worrier (21 ♡):
I have no finger nails left, AND used my cell internet during takeoff, risking destruction of a Boeing 777. Still had to pay $8 to make sure that up 9 points with 23 seconds left was a sufficient lead.
So, with this wickedly slow Internet: VICTORY.
Joy. Thank you all. Hugs all around.
DFiB (18 ♡):
JP's seeing month-over-month improving offensive rating, net rating, and rebound rate. That's all pretty encouraging:
Duby Dub Dubs (14 ♡):
Draymond Green went at it with a fan behind the scorer's table much of the night. Seemed to fire Green up. He had a monster second half, chirping at the fan after every big play. Bob Myers, Mike Dunleavy and Joe Lacob went up to the guy on their way out. Might've thanked him.
PGBreaker (13 ♡):
Naw. These are real people. Negativity can be found elsewhere on the internet in abundance. Let's not invite it on this really great site.
DFiB (11 ♡):
If we can split the next four games against tough competition, the next 15 games after that are:
11 games against below 0.500 teams
2 games against LAC
1 game against Dallas
1 game against Denver
That’s the stretch that will make/break the season.
Goldarn Staid Worrier (11 ♡):
Another way DNHQ is awesome. NBA.com won’t load on slow airplane Internet, but your comments will!
DirgeDisco84 (10 ♡):
I was at the game. First time I’ve seen them in person since the dynasty started. There were a lot of Warriors fans there. It was weird. Maybe 50%, at least in our section. It’s true. And when the Warriors scored the cheers seemed more enthusiastic than for the Wizards. And when we left even the ushers seemed to be into what they had just witnessed.
HOW COULD THE DUBS LET COACH KERR DOWN LIKE THIS IN HIS HOMECOMING?!
Sleepy Freud (17 ♡):
Feels like a sneaky huge win. A loss would have dropped us into a tie with #12 OKC. Now we're #7.
TwoRingTest (10 ♡):
So, clearly we've just been Biden our time until we got to D.C. to put it together.
Duby Dub Dubs (8 ♡):
Lol this is brilliant!!
We will keep this as the game thread. I'll do anpost game, but please advise anyone asking that this is the GT.
Happy MLK day! I finally got a PTO holiday for it 🙌
look into the light
Goldarn Staid Worrier (27 ♡):
Ok here we are again. Under .500 again. Losing on the road again. Squibbing away a winnable game after blowing out the Spurs two nights ago and giving us (false) hope that on the road consistency was possible. Losing made me sad.
And yet. I was at the game, first one I've attended in person in a while, visiting a friend in Chicago who just happened to have tickets and I will enumerate 11, yes 11 interesting things about the Dubs.
1. Dubs are fun. There I said it. This game had a high entertainment value. The ball moved around. So much heat seeking passing. The Dubs played a bunch of good D. And a bunch of good Kerrball offense. Fast breaks. Fun. I enjoyed the game a lot.
2. The in-person NBA level of play is crazy. The guys are so fast, so able, doing things I can barely imagine even trying to do (while failing in injured misery if I tried).
3. In-person NBA is loud. The NBA is addicted to noise. Noisy music, noisy announcing, noisy insanity at every moment when the team isn't playing. What the hell?!?? Are the on-site program builders deaf? Do they think we have the attention span of gnats? Note to self: Bring ear plugs to in-person games. Too loud. And keep those pesky kids off my lawn.
4. If you don't go in person, you miss out on a lot of good stuff. Like an electronic donut, coffee cup and bagel digitally racing around a big screen. Spoiler: the Donut won. People were cheering like mad for their preferred Dunkin' character. Humans are an odd species.
5. Oh, basketball. Yea. That went on occasionally when they took breaks from ear splitting shouting about animated food. The Dubs started out cold as ice, down 15 by the end of the first quarter. They took something like 10 fewer shots than the Bulls in the quarter, it was weird. Then caught up and went ahead in the second quarter. The Bulls were human and the Dubs were Dubs-like and it was really fun. I don't remember much of the rest of the game, there was this bright light ...
6. Watching in person you see the humanity of the players. Draymond gets fouled and flies into the crowd, some dude helps him up and then he checks on the photographer he knocked over. Dude you alright, I saw him mouth. Yep, said the photographer. Later Dray and Dragic were laughing about something. Pre-game Poole challenged Loon to guard him at mid-court and Poole ran circles around him. Looney could not stop laughing. It was sweet.
7. Idea: Occasionally cut from donuts running in circles on the massive screens hanging over the court to show the plays that just happened, or borderline calls that seemed bogus but perhaps with a replay could make us feel better. Oh, haha, that bagel was ahead but now the donut is winning!
8. Klay is so smooth. This Klay is a good version of Klay, I'm happy to see him back. I hope he is like this for a few years because he's a joy to watch.
9. I forgive Steph for not being all that awesome tonight. Can't always have amazing shooting days. And he had a few plays - mostly drives by 2 or 3 or 4 Bulls to the bucket - that had us just slapping our heads saying wtf how did he do that?
10. Vukevic is pretty great, and tied his all time high. Nailing 3s and more or less unstoppable around the rim. If he could play like this every night he'd be an All-star. Instead, he's not.
11. 23 turnovers, and 68% free throw shooting, I gotta figure is a guaranteed loss, or pretty close to it. So much bad dribbling and silly giveaways. The Bulls had 95 field goal attempts vs. our 83. And 2 more FTs (in which they shot 87%). Yea we could make up for that if everything else hummed, but everything else didn't hum.
12. I waved to Janet, though she was halfway around the stadium. I swear she waved back. HI JANET!! And yes, like you, I found it really fun. A very good afternoon. I like being a Warrior fan.
Asher B. (21 ♡):
I will not be available for tomorrow's game as I have been ruled out of back-to-back games. Emotional health reasons.
Janet (15 ♡):
Okay, no day is perfect. Still, we had a great time and loved watching Klay.
Eric Apricot (11 ♡):
Honestly, this team will be judged SOLELY on how far it goes in the playoffs. The regular season is for development and tuning up and healing up and hopefully not sucking so much that you completely miss the playoffs.
TheseGuysAreF’ingGIANTS! (7 ♡):
Currently .500 on the road trip. Killing it!
Klon (7 ♡):
It will never not be absolutely bewildering to me how someone who was *in the building* when 0-27 happened can think that copying that playstyle is the way to go. Steve, you saw it going down in flames at the most crucial time of its philosophy. You exposed its inefficiencies, you saw how that team died when its only midrange option went down. Yet here you are having your team shoot 61% of its shots from beyond the arc. Sixty-freaking-one. That is not good offence. It never was good offence, it is not good offence and it will not be good offence 100 years from now when basketball is played by radiated mutants who can dunk almost from the three-point arc.
That alone is frustrating enough to the point where I don't even feel like going over all the other problems. Threesus... 61%!
It's a matinee game at noon thirty on the front end of a back-to-back
Janet (43 ♡):
The sun is shining in Chicago. Results this morning show my husband’s brain MRI clear of cancer. And we are going to the game this afternoon. WAAARRRIORS!
Chasing Rings... (11 ♡):
Klay is on the uptrend for sure (24 29 31 54 30 29 16, Ave 30.43 over the last 7 games, career best?!) but I was quite surprised at just HOW many more 3P shots he is taking compared to pre-injury Klay.
2011-2019 (615 games)
2022-2023 (65 games)
We all know he was hunting and pressing his shot to burn off the 941 day rust, but taking over 40% more 3's to do it?! Holy Cornholio!
I get 3PA have increased dramatically over the last decade in general but even Championship run Klay was *only attempting a solid 7-8 3's a game.
For comparison, Curry's career:
Cheat Code Curry from 2015 (8 Seasons)
Klay's last 7 games!!!!!!!
Obviously Steph being out and Jordan struggling from deep has forced Klaybot into volumes and levels I wasn't sure I would ever see again. (😥)
Hoist ye sails and ready the cannons Captain Klay. The Splash Brothers have another pirate 'ship to chase down! 🏴☠️
the rare road romp
Sleepy Freud (17 ♡):
Why on earth would we trade Donte for him [Caruso]? They’re basically the same player, except Donte’s three years younger, a better athlete, a much better rebounder, and actually shoots the ball occasionally. And has developed a half-season’s worth of chemistry with the team.
But isn’t Donte (in taller form) the exact type of player they should be trying to acquire? Right now I think he’s in pole position to be in the playoff closing 5 unit with Big 3 and Wiggs. If we’re entertaining offers for him, we might as well see what’s out there for Loon, Wiggs, Dray, Klay, et al. Which is to say: we shouldn’t be entertaining offers for him.
dinohealth (10 ♡):
Speaking of romps and shredding defenses, I haven't seen the look of futility on Luka's face, that I saw tonight, since the last time he saw GPII. I stayed up to watch the Luca-Dame matchup, as Luka ran his mouth, promising he would outscore Dame...DAME took it personally while registering his 4th 30+ successive game. Advantage Dame, 36-15, as GPII frustrated Luka for 15 mins while dropping 10pts, sinking 2, 3pters, from opposite corners, and snaring 4 steals...where have we seen that fine defensive act and critical offensive spark before.... Meantime GPII still helping us, as with that loss, we are only one loss behind Mavs. Playback 2-nite in Portland on a B2B.
GlueAndBold (8 ♡):
I like Caruso but I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want to trade Donte for him even straight up. This team was lost when Donte was out, and does so much better when he plays. I think there is a decent argument that he's part of a foundational 7.
TwoRingTest (7 ♡):
The nice thing about the view from space is that you can see the Earth rotate underneath the shot as it goes up.
Eight Warriors score in the double digits
TwoRingTest (17 ♡):
Klay is being very Steph-like these days:
7-10, 2-3, 3 rbs, 4 assists
Ilikefoodtrucks (12 ♡):
Suns lose. sweet.
Sleepy Freud (11 ♡):
Jerome to me is our new Shaun Livingston. We could *potentially* live without him this season alone due to the presence of Donte and Andre ... but what happens next season when Andre retires and Donte bolts for more money?
I for one never want to relive the Brad Wanamaker, Nico Mannion, Ky Bowman, or Chris Chiozza experience. Gotta keep Ty Jerome, imo.
fzwinter (9 ♡):
So nice to finally have an easy win with Steph and Klay getting to sit out the 4th quarter and none of the starters managing 30 minutes.
Judging from how Zack Collins looked tonight, I hope the Wiseman + Moody for Collins trade talk dies a quick death. Just happy that Collins didn't hurt Draymond on that long pass. Wasn't a dirty play but still quite dangerous.
Guessing that Andre's dunk landing will keep him out of the lineup for the next game, but with a B2B coming up, perhaps he'll be able to play in Washington. Let's hope JFK is able to play on Sunday.
Just saw that WastingCurrysPrime! had similar things to say 3 minutes earlier.
Nellie (8 ♡):
Booooo. It was so fun seeing the vintage Small Ball Death Squad snuff out the Spurs' last bit of hope last night.
Mostly back, but still messy - Golden State takes on the Spurs at a really big arena for some reason
Eric Apricot (20 ♡):
Congratulations on the first road win of the year
Five Alarm Freddy (16 ♡):
For the first time in a very long time my daughter and I drove to work without the radio on. It's usually blasting "Goodbye Earl" by the Chicks as we both screams the lyrics. We both realized it after about 10 minutes. I asked her if she would like it turned on. She said no. She liked the quiet. I asked if she was ok, she said she felt sad. The precariousness of the world was weighing on her. At 12. I am not equipped with a great ability to eloquently console her. So I just hugged her.
Thanks Duby for all you do and the sacrifices you make. At times it takes too much effort for me to even make one or two half witted comments on here. For you and the guys to keep up with constant content day after day is appreciated immensely.
Chadara (13 ♡):
...just for a little first half of the season perspective...
Last year, after 41 games, the Boston Celtics were 20-21.
Here's to hoping for a great second half for the Golden State Warriors!
pooryorick (9 ♡):
If Donte keeps shooting well from three I could picture a playoff lineup of Dray$ at Center, Klay and Wiggs on the wings, and Donte and Steph in the backcourt. Shooting, passing and defense for days (and did I mention rebounding?).
mDuo13 (9 ♡):
If I were scheduling an NBA game and trying to set the record for attendance I would absolutely ensure the greatest show in sports (Curry and the Warriors) were playing.
GlueAndBold (9 ♡):
Sitting in drenched forest on a hill, thankful for Safeway delivery and afternoon basketball
It rarely happens though hmmmmmmm....
Mr.Plow (11 ♡):
He never got much chance here, but Boucher carved out a solid career for himself since leaving
nomdesab (10 ♡):
JK is ramping up to practice with the team (that started today.)
JMG & Wiseman will be ramping up to practice with the team "In the coming days"
fzwinter (8 ♡):
It's a crybaby fest with LeBron and Luka whining after every possession. Makes Dray look like David Robinson in comparison.
Chasing Rings... (8 ♡):
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nomdesab (8 ♡):
Thanks for the trip down memory lane, Daniel!!
ServantOfLuna (7 ♡):
Kuminga was at a shootaround tonight.
mDuo13 (6 ♡):
One post-Warriors success story: Iguodala's vacation season in Miami (sorry Memphis, he never liked you). They made conference finals the first year of that! He played real playoff minutes and earned a fat extension on his old man contract.
Another guy who seems to be holding up and recently torched us is Alec Burks. He's averaging 14 points a game on Detroit; last year he even started 44 games for the Knicks.
But the unsuccessful cases are more common. Good ol' Ian Clark was a nice rotation player for us, signed with the AD-era Pels and petered out. Alfonso McKinnie followed the LA retirement path with Quinn Cook, Bazemore, and JTA. Then there's guys like Jonas Jerebko, Jordan Bell, Eric Paschall, Glenn Robinson III, arguably even Omari Spellman who were contributors on Golden State and did nothing afterwards. I still don't know what happened to Marquese Chriss's potential after that injury.
Goldarn Staid Worrier (5 ♡):
Fun posting, nice to think about something other than the recent annoying losses.
But back to winning - how about Looney in the All Star Game??? I had a look at the early returns from the voting and they are pretty entertaining. Warriors may be stumbling so far this season, but their fans are extremely committed. Check it out:
Wiggins (5th), Draymond (8th) and Looney (9th) are all getting strong support for front court.
Steph (1st) ... well yea. Buy Klay (5th) kinda surprised me.
As I understand it the fan vote only is weighted 50% towards the actual selection (25% players, 25% media) so it seems really unlikely that Dray, Loon or Klay will actually make the team. But it's fun to see them on these lists.
The Damion Lee revenge game
D P has a question (18 ♡):
Odd observations in no particular order; was at the game and I didn't take notes, so feel free to correct me if I am wrong:
Iguodala was one of the few who didn't make a terrible pass. He got beat in the paint a few times, but defended well on both ends. And the dunk!
Some lineups I don't remember seeing before, such as Lamb, Steph, Andre, Wiggs, and JP?
There's lots to work on, but I believe it's fixable, as long as we stay healthy.
When we had NOTHING going on, Lamb crashed the paint and got to the line (3 times?). Yes dawg!
I'm happy DLee is playing so well. No urge to boo when he shot FTs. Besides, DLee's son is beyond cute (and I recalled he was +90% FTs when he played regularly for GS).
Deebo, in the money green, was a great guest/fan. Engaged, with lots to say on the sidelines, (and sometimes on the court?) He stayed to the bitter end.
pooryorick (11 ♡):
All losing aside does anyone else get a perverse thrill from watching Dray$ defend a 2 on 1 fast break alone from a dumb turnover he created. Last night he had one he broke up beneath the basket and just as quickly started the charge going the other way. I was rolling. 😂
nomdesab (10 ♡):
So basically the 4 time champion Kerr Warriors are cocky as f*k
JMullins23 (10 ♡):
The Dubs are learning real time. FO and coaching staff had never drafted in the lottery while seeking to compete for chips. One lesson: the development curve is much longer on a competing team and 4 years might not be enough. Could easily see Moody and JW progressing at a Looney-like pace, and being rotation pieces after 6 years or so in the league. I secretly hope that their slow development reduces their immediate value so that they can be extended on the cheap.
mDuo13 (10 ♡):
I just want to say... Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrgggghhhh!!!!!!!!!
That is all.
Eric Apricot (9 ♡):
Just catching up to the news that Trevion got traded.
(Sits silently in a rocking chair, staring out the window…)
Also, checking in on the team at the halfway mark
GlueAndBold (21 ♡):
Man, I can't help feeling like he [OPJ] and GP2 left it all on the floor for us.
DubsNerd (19 ♡):
Yeah, gotta think CP3 is going to love being on the sidelines watching Lee get ringed up.
Captain Jack (17 ♡):
Steph, Klay, Wiggins, Draymond and Looney starting? Wow. What a starting lineup. Haven't seen that in a while.
The Professor (15 ♡):
I have no sympathy for any team with Chris Paul on it :)
dinohealth (14 ♡):
Thanks. I ENJOY the heck out of it; it is the only place of common understanding for TRUE WARRIOR FANS. Man, you guys, ERIC, DUBY, DANIEL, et al, have done a super job of holding the DUB FAN STANDARD HIGH and CARRYING IT FORWARD. Unfortunately, as our neighbors in Turkey get closer to elections this spring, the EMed will likely get super-hot, and I will have to pull away, methinks....So, getting all the joy I can, while I can...
Professor Trogdor (14 ♡):
I'm honestly pleasantly surprised with how well the team has done without Steph. I think the team is set up really well for the second half push, assuming they can get people healthy. It's been really great getting more reps up and down the lineup.
ServantOfLuna (12 ♡):
Booker had a groin strain last month, and the Suns kept him out for a couple of weeks. Then they rushed him back for the Christmas game, and he re-aggravated his injured groin. Now he's out for several weeks.
Moral of the story: don't rush players back from an injury.
Miracles and duds
GlueAndBold (20 ♡):
I want to share a Warriors-adjacent tale with everyone.
My girlfriend Corine had bought us tickets to the 1/7 game against the Magic for my bday, so we were staying in the city on Saturday night. Before the game, she called an Uber. I was pretty excited that it turned out to be an electric vehicle, as that has been my jam ever since my biodiesel company folded in 2014.
Me and the driver, Mark, got to talking about EVs and at some point he mentioned that he's testing out various models to see which is best for transporting his drum set. Turns out he's a professional musician going back a few decades. We talked about drummers, and Carter Beauford of Dave Matthews Band came up. That is my gf's favorite band of all-time, and it turns out that Mark's band had a little moment in the spotlight for a year or two a couple decades ago.
They were signed to Polygram and Dave Matthews saw them at the Sweetwater in Mill Valley and liked them enough to have them as an opener on their tour around the year 2000. He shared a story of Dave ("an incredibly sweet man") losing his rental car and getting drunk on tequila with him. I asked him the name of his old band, and it was Box Set. Amazingly enough, I was a big fan of Box Set back in the 90s, as they fit my acoustic jam-band ways back then.
Just a crazy amazing ride to the game that turned out to be a highlight of the trip. As a side note, Mark told me that the Box Set album I was most familiar with that I used to own, their self-titled debut, was not his favorite and recommended I check out the album Lemonade. Here's a song from that album:
Sleepy Freud (15 ♡):
So … are Steph and KD now the same person?
Player A: 34 years old, 30.0 ppg on .668 TS, 6.6 rpg, +7.1 pts per 100 possessions on court
Player B: 34 years old, 29.7 ppg on .673 TS, 6.7 rpg, +6.7 pts per 100 possessions on court
Player A magically reappears just as Player B goes down. Hmmmm….
nomdesab (14 ♡):
Happy Klay Day Y'all!
Ilikefoodtrucks (14 ♡):
Not sure if this was posted, as it is from a few days ago in the NYTimes but an interview (combined from two interviews) with Dray: "Draymond Green Sets Us Straight on the Real N.B.A." https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/01/09/magazine/draymond-green-interview.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes
I'm not a subscriber but you can read a few free pieces a month.
I learned that Draymond was on meds for seizures for years and he says his mom didn't tell him until last year (!) that docs said he shouldn't play basketball. " She said, "I never wanted you to believe the things that the doctors were saying — ‘you should never drive, never play basketball, never swim’ — I never wanted you to believe that, so I encouraged you to do everything that any other child would do.”
nomdesab (11 ♡):
Some good news coming out on the injury front....
[I can't upload an image right now.]
Steph, Klay, Wiggins, and Andre all practiced fully today.
Kuminga, Wiseman and JMG did not.
DFiB (9 ♡):
Other fun facts:
1. The Thunder are in 13th place, only 2 games back.
2. The Dubs have the best Vegas odds of all West teams