Holy heck, reading the comments in here makes me wish the draft was yesterday so we can finally actually act like fans of a contending team again and actually talk about getting winning players and not just about how we can "dEveLoP" young players like we are in the first-year of a five-year rebuild.
Add me to the list of increasingly disgruntled fan - i really really hope JK is not traded. There is no DUBs player outside of Steph who gets the crowd going more!
Trying to make sense of all of the rumors over the past few days and trying to make myself feel better about any move including JK … If Ausar Thompson is still available at #8, would the Warriors pull the trigger on the potential trade with the Wizards… #8 Pick, Porzingas for JK, Poole, #19 pick, and a future first?
From a Wizards perspective, they appear to be resetting with the new front office. You still have a first pick in this draft and you acquire a future first. You would be getting two exciting, ring-bearing, young players, who may simply be a better fit for your system than they are in Golden State - who you hold rights to for at least the next two years. While Porzingas opted-in, it doesn’t seem like he wants to stay in Washington and may simply not like the teams with cap space this summer. Total conjecture but perhaps a deal was agreed upon – I’ll opt-in if you trade me to where I want, else you can lose me for nothing. For all we know, a trade may already be in place.
While it appears as though, it’s a lot to give up from a Warriors perspective, you now have a well-rounded, bigger, offensively potent starting 5. Steph, Klay, Wiggins, Green, Porzingas. As Green as your hub, who are you leaving open? And Porzingas is a better defender than he gets credit for. Your roster makes more sense for the way the Warriors play and your bench players aren’t likely clamoring for more PT or to start. Your bench is Looney, Moody, GP2, PBJ, Thompson, Rollins et al. Love JK but hearing/reading more about Thompson, he seems like a better fit – described as a super athletic Shaun Livingston.
My concerns, Porzingas is injury prone. Also, is rookie A-Thompson gifted enough offensively to pick up the scoring slack from no longer having Poole? … maybe you pick up a vet min PG with a good mid-range game and desperately wants a ring(?)…
This would be contingent upon moving Beale (which I think will happen soon) but Poole is still a young player with upside and the Wizards will need some young talent after jettisoning or losing a number of vets. Wizards may see how good he was two years ago, how hard he works, how he’s better as a starter, and how poorly his last year started. He’ll be motivated as their alpha.
Do you feel like he’s a negative asset with that contract? He had a little fat cat syndrome like the rest of the team but I think he’ll be a much better player this year wherever he ends up even if it’s still in SF.
Yes. What we saw is what other teams see and what you describe as ‘upside’ should be the reason we should be holding on to him until he’s able to fulfill said upside
Was trying to read the tea leaves. I’ve been in the camp of at least keeping one of them. But think this might be a realistic outcome, based on the rumors.
I know that the strong rumor is that they are looking for someone more experienced. I mean I get it, young guys make mistakes. But it sure does depend on which veteran. Unless it's all-star caliber I would be verrrrry hesitant. Let's say it's six man caliber. Who only gets Kuminga's six million. Tyler Herro comes to mind. Not all that much of a vet but still: has an award. Is that really going to make the team better? In the long run? Ricky Rubio? Kevin Love? JaVale McGee? Joe Ingles? Who are we talking about here? If the FO pulls a rabbit out of its hat I'd be impressed. But veteranship alone is not going to get it done.
JK is obviously not getting traded for any of the other (old) dudes you mentioned. Like you, I hope they don’t trade him at all, but if they’re “exploring” it, I’d assume they’re targeting a much more impactful (and younger) player than those guys. Someone like Siakam or KAT might be nice. If that’s aiming too high … no one’s forcing them to trade JK.
Sucks about Jama. I'm not sure how much it reflects on the Warriors and their new philosophy (definitely some, for sure, but also):
- Jama spending almost his entire adult life in Canada except for his time in the Bay (and an NBA job in Asia over a decade ago).
- With FVV gone, the Raptors might actually be considering embracing youth more (aka shopping Siakam?), even if they don't brand it as a "rebuild" per se. And even if not, they have a young team with Barnes a key starter now.
It's weird to see him go because he was just on TV chatting with Adonal Foyle not that long ago. But coaches move almost as much as players, and it makes prefect sense for him to move back to Toronto. Best of luck to him, he came here with a great reputation, played a large role in our title-winning coaching staff, and seemed like a cool guy.
Who on this coaching staff was stellar this season ?. Why do i feel like i would be OK if kerr was to also leave and we get someone who can develop ypung talented guys to play the more advanced style of steph-ball that the rest of the league is trying to get to with younger longer players. I really hope lacob does not give kerr a long term deal that extends beyond Steph!
Speaking of drafting young guys, with Jama going back to Toronto, I wonder if they will move up Seth Cooper to the big league. Had high hopes that Jama would make a huge difference in young player development based on what the Raptors had done recently, and maybe he did some good things, but it didn't feel like he really moved the needle. Sure, probably some copium since he is leaving, but it wasn't like the guys popped more/faster than you might have expected. Will be interesting who takes over as the "player development" guy.
This better mean that JK is disgruntled and didn't want to be a Warrior because otherwise, it seems like we're giving up on him at just the wrong time.
No, I don't know who they would get back, and it might be somebody great. But if it's just to move up in the draft, it seems like it would lead to years of additional development. That would not be welcome at this juncture.
The Mahlalela departure probably also points to the direction the Warriors are trying to go. I'll personally be surprised if Kuminga is on the roster next season.
Not sure what he or anybody on this staff can say they succeed with this year. JP regressed - wiseman was traded. JK played his style and was penalized. Meanwhile dray and klay can do whatever and kerr is fine - i dont like this. i really hope lacob does NOT give kerr a long term deal - o know i am in the minority here but the coaching this season was Crap to me as a fan and it may just be the optics!
Not a coach in NBA history who would have succeeded more than Kerr did with a roster as confused as that imo. I'm hoping they trade Kuminga and build a roster that makes sense this time around, personally.
I can think of a coach who would have done better: 2015 Kerr. I feel like he was figuring out young pieces with flair back then and although he is still an elite coach, he didn't quite deliver the goods this year. All it takes is a couple of mistakes in a competitive environment.
Really hoping its just that they decided that Atkinson and Milojevic are enough for player development, and they just wanted to adjust the ratio on the coaching staff a bit rather than giving up on having the kids on the roster.
#DERICK Lively - on the principle that this mock is about finding what we value as a community. I value defense, youth, wingspan, and shot making. Lively has all except the last, and per rumors, has been nailing 3’s in workouts. After that, Hawkins then Howard, both for shooting.
Was thinking that whomever they take, he won't really matter for three or four years, and realized that will really be in the next timeline. Maybe 39 YO Steph is doing the Vince Carter roll, but Draymond and Klay are done by then. So, rather than asking who will fit with the core, the question might be, who will complement Loon, Wiggs, JK, JP, Moody, and PBJ. A bit sad, but gotta appreciate what a great decade we've had.
Yeah, wonder if we'll ever hear anything more about the cancelled workout, but may be as simple as he rightly expected to be gone well before 19. Thought it would be fun to have Dereck work with Dekky and Loon, given what he seems to have as raw talent/instincts. But, not really happy about the "trade JK to move up and get DL" buzz out there, it is neither a win now nor a long term upside play imo.
But teams always make trades... no sense canceling the workout you scheduled because a team is drafting a bit below where you expect to go... maybe you blow them away and they end up wanting to trade up to get you, or rumors start flying that they want to trade up, bumping up interest from other teams to swoop in earlier to get you...
Pairs well with a creative high IQ ball handler- while basically showing change of direction moves off ball that Klay and Steph have been running for years.
Sam Vecenie has Kris Murray slotted to the Warriors at 19. Im telling you ladies and fellars that if we draft Murray at 19 heck Murray anywhere in the first round or even top of second round on a trade back I am going to scream and pout the same way i did when the Dubs picked Nico over Isaiah Joe and none of you will be able to convince me to see the potential upside this time like yall did with Wiseman
I tried to tell you he would max out (with the Warriors) as the worst player in the NBA, and would be traded at age 21 for Gary Payton’s 30 y.o. 6’-3” power forward son! 😂
It's funny, Murray is probably my #1 after Lively who isn't falling to #19. He made his team better, has size, can defend, is ready to contribute and might be able to shoot. He isn't an upside pick, but he can play basketball. That's enough.
What's the percentile chance Kris becomes Keegan, though? From what I remember of the articles EA linked to for his scouting profile, 2/3 were pretty lukewarm on his potential... Otoh taking players who make their team win and are older feels like a reasonable strategy, and Iowan Murray fits that bill.
The issue I have with all these 'draft an older player so he can contribute immediately' is:
How likely is that to move the needle at all next year? Maybe 1-2% more than a younger, higher risk prospect? Probably even less than that the following year. The 2nd year player will contribute more, but age-related decline/injuries are going to start taking a big bite out of the core ... complementary players just aren't going to be as useful in that situation.
If you're going to load up for next year, then it's going to need to happen via a trade, not the draft.
If you aren't going to make that trade, why not get a younger player with more potential?
If you are drafting in the Lottery, you can get older immediate-impact players like 21-year olds Ike Diogu, Mickael Pietrus, Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy Jr, Harrison Barnes, or Steve Curry.
Later in the first, you only get 21-year-olds like Damian Jones or Jacob Evans.
> How likely is that to move the needle at all next year? Maybe 1-2% more than a younger, higher risk prospect? Probably even less than that the following year.
That's assuming that the younger prospect pans out, but many don't. Also sometimes the older guys have a lot more potential than they are given credit for, like with Jalen Brunson, Desmond Bane, Derrick White, Kyle Kuzma, etc. so you get the best of both worlds.
I'm not really a fan of taking older guys in the lottery but the later you get in the first round, I'm more ambivalent. 19 might be a bit high for that though, I'd hope for a trade down which it sounds like the Warriors are exploring. But I don't think the Knicks have any regrets picking second year playoff starter Quentin Grimes over Cam Thomas or Jaden Springer...yet, anyway.
Some of the older guys don't work out, too. Would we have rather had Chris Duarte than Moody at this point?
But, regardless, the point is that no pick at 19 (or even 10, if we trade up) is going to be transformative for our chances in the next couple of years.
If we're really going for it next year, then we need to trade for a real contributing vet. And, if we aren't doing that, and actually use the pick, then I would still go for the high-risk, high-reward player.
I just want to say that there is no way the Warriors are going to trade JK just so they can move up enough in the draft to take Lively. They might try to trade the #19 pick, Poole and JK to somebody with cap space to move up without taking much salary back, but if they did that you might as well assume that Dray is gone and they are breaking up the dynasty. Curry, Thompson, Moody, Wiggins, and Looney doesn't look like a championship rotation, especially not with PBJ, Rollins, Santos, and miscellaneous vet mins and 2-ways as the bench. That said, a new GM may well want to make it "his or her" team in which case all bets are off.
Why do you think trading Poole and JK would mean Dray is gone? If anything if Dray’s leaving I’d want to keep Kuminga to eat up those minutes at the 4 no?
We all know he’s not going to be there but I’ll still hold out hope for #Dereck. After that for me it’s gotta be Howard. I see that Hawkins is getting a lot of love here but idk, it seem to me that a guy who’s only thing is hitting catch and shoot threes isn’t worth drafting for. Thats the type of player you grab from the G league, and that player would (ideally) have the advantage of having a more NBA ready build and much more experience. I’d rather spend my draft pick on someone who looks like a shot creator that can open those types of shots up for the catch and shoot guy, seems like the harder skill to find.
I honestly like this spread a lot: we have an initiator, a finisher, an eraser, and a facilitator—two offensively focused, two defensively, all seemingly high-BBIQ and effort.
But I went with Hawkins for a few reasons:
- With the direction basketball has been trending, I really don't think you can get enough competent 3-point threats on a roster.
- His defense is a work in progress but the signs are there for a two-way impact.
- His biggest strengths (catch-and-shoot, off-ball movement) seem like a perfect fit for the Warriors style of basketball.
Man im trying to think of that one poster on here who trashed Jama all of summer league saying he would never ever amount to anything as a coach…based on mac Mclung not being more of a distributor? Anywaus, good times. Godspeed, Jama in Toronto. Big big loss for the Warriors. I know all these guys were brought in for development of the young core but it was really Wiggins and Looney that seemed to have benefitted the most.
Holy heck, reading the comments in here makes me wish the draft was yesterday so we can finally actually act like fans of a contending team again and actually talk about getting winning players and not just about how we can "dEveLoP" young players like we are in the first-year of a five-year rebuild.
We’re in year -3 of a five-year rebuild, haha
The problem is the FO was trying to reload, but Kerr saw it as a rebuild.
When the Dubs trade JK it's going to make me really annoyed they didn't take Franz.
Dear Dubs, please don't trade Jonathan Kuminga
Best,
An increasingly disgruntled Warriors fan
Add me to the list of increasingly disgruntled fan - i really really hope JK is not traded. There is no DUBs player outside of Steph who gets the crowd going more!
I would say that mantle still belongs to GPII for his all out hustle and joy. But JFK's ceiling to be thee Franchise player is definitely there!
Trying to make sense of all of the rumors over the past few days and trying to make myself feel better about any move including JK … If Ausar Thompson is still available at #8, would the Warriors pull the trigger on the potential trade with the Wizards… #8 Pick, Porzingas for JK, Poole, #19 pick, and a future first?
From a Wizards perspective, they appear to be resetting with the new front office. You still have a first pick in this draft and you acquire a future first. You would be getting two exciting, ring-bearing, young players, who may simply be a better fit for your system than they are in Golden State - who you hold rights to for at least the next two years. While Porzingas opted-in, it doesn’t seem like he wants to stay in Washington and may simply not like the teams with cap space this summer. Total conjecture but perhaps a deal was agreed upon – I’ll opt-in if you trade me to where I want, else you can lose me for nothing. For all we know, a trade may already be in place.
While it appears as though, it’s a lot to give up from a Warriors perspective, you now have a well-rounded, bigger, offensively potent starting 5. Steph, Klay, Wiggins, Green, Porzingas. As Green as your hub, who are you leaving open? And Porzingas is a better defender than he gets credit for. Your roster makes more sense for the way the Warriors play and your bench players aren’t likely clamoring for more PT or to start. Your bench is Looney, Moody, GP2, PBJ, Thompson, Rollins et al. Love JK but hearing/reading more about Thompson, he seems like a better fit – described as a super athletic Shaun Livingston.
My concerns, Porzingas is injury prone. Also, is rookie A-Thompson gifted enough offensively to pick up the scoring slack from no longer having Poole? … maybe you pick up a vet min PG with a good mid-range game and desperately wants a ring(?)…
Why would the Wizards want to straddle themselves with Pooles contract though?
This would be contingent upon moving Beale (which I think will happen soon) but Poole is still a young player with upside and the Wizards will need some young talent after jettisoning or losing a number of vets. Wizards may see how good he was two years ago, how hard he works, how he’s better as a starter, and how poorly his last year started. He’ll be motivated as their alpha.
Do you feel like he’s a negative asset with that contract? He had a little fat cat syndrome like the rest of the team but I think he’ll be a much better player this year wherever he ends up even if it’s still in SF.
Yes. What we saw is what other teams see and what you describe as ‘upside’ should be the reason we should be holding on to him until he’s able to fulfill said upside
Was trying to read the tea leaves. I’ve been in the camp of at least keeping one of them. But think this might be a realistic outcome, based on the rumors.
I know that the strong rumor is that they are looking for someone more experienced. I mean I get it, young guys make mistakes. But it sure does depend on which veteran. Unless it's all-star caliber I would be verrrrry hesitant. Let's say it's six man caliber. Who only gets Kuminga's six million. Tyler Herro comes to mind. Not all that much of a vet but still: has an award. Is that really going to make the team better? In the long run? Ricky Rubio? Kevin Love? JaVale McGee? Joe Ingles? Who are we talking about here? If the FO pulls a rabbit out of its hat I'd be impressed. But veteranship alone is not going to get it done.
Herro’s making ~$30M a year (Poole money).
JK is obviously not getting traded for any of the other (old) dudes you mentioned. Like you, I hope they don’t trade him at all, but if they’re “exploring” it, I’d assume they’re targeting a much more impactful (and younger) player than those guys. Someone like Siakam or KAT might be nice. If that’s aiming too high … no one’s forcing them to trade JK.
I doubledoublebang that
Sucks about Jama. I'm not sure how much it reflects on the Warriors and their new philosophy (definitely some, for sure, but also):
- Jama spending almost his entire adult life in Canada except for his time in the Bay (and an NBA job in Asia over a decade ago).
- With FVV gone, the Raptors might actually be considering embracing youth more (aka shopping Siakam?), even if they don't brand it as a "rebuild" per se. And even if not, they have a young team with Barnes a key starter now.
It's weird to see him go because he was just on TV chatting with Adonal Foyle not that long ago. But coaches move almost as much as players, and it makes prefect sense for him to move back to Toronto. Best of luck to him, he came here with a great reputation, played a large role in our title-winning coaching staff, and seemed like a cool guy.
Who on this coaching staff was stellar this season ?. Why do i feel like i would be OK if kerr was to also leave and we get someone who can develop ypung talented guys to play the more advanced style of steph-ball that the rest of the league is trying to get to with younger longer players. I really hope lacob does not give kerr a long term deal that extends beyond Steph!
Damn. Sounds like when Steph said his "If you’re getting on this bus" speech, JK must have replied, "Don't you mean getting on my bus?".
Speaking of drafting young guys, with Jama going back to Toronto, I wonder if they will move up Seth Cooper to the big league. Had high hopes that Jama would make a huge difference in young player development based on what the Raptors had done recently, and maybe he did some good things, but it didn't feel like he really moved the needle. Sure, probably some copium since he is leaving, but it wasn't like the guys popped more/faster than you might have expected. Will be interesting who takes over as the "player development" guy.
A one minute clip of Givony on Zach Lowe's latest podcast talking about what he's hearing about the Warriors as the draft approaches:
https://twitter.com/samesfandiari/status/1669465466946068480
That’s a really interesting clip. He says
- GSW aggressively trying to move in lottery (Givony reported yesterday)
- GSW have Kuminga up for trade (Givony reported yesterday)
- GSW working out older players (we all noticed this)
- GSW telling agents they want players who are ready now and mature enough to accept a role (news to me)
I should listen to the whole pod…
This better mean that JK is disgruntled and didn't want to be a Warrior because otherwise, it seems like we're giving up on him at just the wrong time.
No, I don't know who they would get back, and it might be somebody great. But if it's just to move up in the draft, it seems like it would lead to years of additional development. That would not be welcome at this juncture.
It feels like giving up on JK on the cusp of his third year in the league is such a huge mistake.
The Mahlalela departure probably also points to the direction the Warriors are trying to go. I'll personally be surprised if Kuminga is on the roster next season.
Not sure what he or anybody on this staff can say they succeed with this year. JP regressed - wiseman was traded. JK played his style and was penalized. Meanwhile dray and klay can do whatever and kerr is fine - i dont like this. i really hope lacob does NOT give kerr a long term deal - o know i am in the minority here but the coaching this season was Crap to me as a fan and it may just be the optics!
Not a coach in NBA history who would have succeeded more than Kerr did with a roster as confused as that imo. I'm hoping they trade Kuminga and build a roster that makes sense this time around, personally.
I can think of a coach who would have done better: 2015 Kerr. I feel like he was figuring out young pieces with flair back then and although he is still an elite coach, he didn't quite deliver the goods this year. All it takes is a couple of mistakes in a competitive environment.
Really hoping its just that they decided that Atkinson and Milojevic are enough for player development, and they just wanted to adjust the ratio on the coaching staff a bit rather than giving up on having the kids on the roster.
#DERECK I mean #TRADETHEPICKFORSOMEONEGREAT
#DERICK Lively - on the principle that this mock is about finding what we value as a community. I value defense, youth, wingspan, and shot making. Lively has all except the last, and per rumors, has been nailing 3’s in workouts. After that, Hawkins then Howard, both for shooting.
Was thinking that whomever they take, he won't really matter for three or four years, and realized that will really be in the next timeline. Maybe 39 YO Steph is doing the Vince Carter roll, but Draymond and Klay are done by then. So, rather than asking who will fit with the core, the question might be, who will complement Loon, Wiggs, JK, JP, Moody, and PBJ. A bit sad, but gotta appreciate what a great decade we've had.
Some people are saying there could be a more immediate role for Lively, based on his elite rim protection and IQ.
Yeah, wonder if we'll ever hear anything more about the cancelled workout, but may be as simple as he rightly expected to be gone well before 19. Thought it would be fun to have Dereck work with Dekky and Loon, given what he seems to have as raw talent/instincts. But, not really happy about the "trade JK to move up and get DL" buzz out there, it is neither a win now nor a long term upside play imo.
But teams always make trades... no sense canceling the workout you scheduled because a team is drafting a bit below where you expect to go... maybe you blow them away and they end up wanting to trade up to get you, or rumors start flying that they want to trade up, bumping up interest from other teams to swoop in earlier to get you...
I'd say canceling the workout was a rookie mistake . . . but he's not even a rookie, yet.
Pairs well with a creative high IQ ball handler- while basically showing change of direction moves off ball that Klay and Steph have been running for years.
#TWO
Sam Vecenie has Kris Murray slotted to the Warriors at 19. Im telling you ladies and fellars that if we draft Murray at 19 heck Murray anywhere in the first round or even top of second round on a trade back I am going to scream and pout the same way i did when the Dubs picked Nico over Isaiah Joe and none of you will be able to convince me to see the potential upside this time like yall did with Wiseman
I tried to tell you he would max out (with the Warriors) as the worst player in the NBA, and would be traded at age 21 for Gary Payton’s 30 y.o. 6’-3” power forward son! 😂
It's funny, Murray is probably my #1 after Lively who isn't falling to #19. He made his team better, has size, can defend, is ready to contribute and might be able to shoot. He isn't an upside pick, but he can play basketball. That's enough.
If his upside is his brother, that’s an upside pick at 19
What's the percentile chance Kris becomes Keegan, though? From what I remember of the articles EA linked to for his scouting profile, 2/3 were pretty lukewarm on his potential... Otoh taking players who make their team win and are older feels like a reasonable strategy, and Iowan Murray fits that bill.
Did they have similar discussions about Seth Curry?
Dunno, but I'd assume so. It's slightly different since Seth wasn't playing in Davidson so it's not as easy a comparison I'd guess
The issue I have with all these 'draft an older player so he can contribute immediately' is:
How likely is that to move the needle at all next year? Maybe 1-2% more than a younger, higher risk prospect? Probably even less than that the following year. The 2nd year player will contribute more, but age-related decline/injuries are going to start taking a big bite out of the core ... complementary players just aren't going to be as useful in that situation.
If you're going to load up for next year, then it's going to need to happen via a trade, not the draft.
If you aren't going to make that trade, why not get a younger player with more potential?
If you are drafting in the Lottery, you can get older immediate-impact players like 21-year olds Ike Diogu, Mickael Pietrus, Troy Murphy, Mike Dunleavy Jr, Harrison Barnes, or Steve Curry.
Later in the first, you only get 21-year-olds like Damian Jones or Jacob Evans.
> How likely is that to move the needle at all next year? Maybe 1-2% more than a younger, higher risk prospect? Probably even less than that the following year.
That's assuming that the younger prospect pans out, but many don't. Also sometimes the older guys have a lot more potential than they are given credit for, like with Jalen Brunson, Desmond Bane, Derrick White, Kyle Kuzma, etc. so you get the best of both worlds.
I'm not really a fan of taking older guys in the lottery but the later you get in the first round, I'm more ambivalent. 19 might be a bit high for that though, I'd hope for a trade down which it sounds like the Warriors are exploring. But I don't think the Knicks have any regrets picking second year playoff starter Quentin Grimes over Cam Thomas or Jaden Springer...yet, anyway.
Some of the older guys don't work out, too. Would we have rather had Chris Duarte than Moody at this point?
But, regardless, the point is that no pick at 19 (or even 10, if we trade up) is going to be transformative for our chances in the next couple of years.
If we're really going for it next year, then we need to trade for a real contributing vet. And, if we aren't doing that, and actually use the pick, then I would still go for the high-risk, high-reward player.
I just want to say that there is no way the Warriors are going to trade JK just so they can move up enough in the draft to take Lively. They might try to trade the #19 pick, Poole and JK to somebody with cap space to move up without taking much salary back, but if they did that you might as well assume that Dray is gone and they are breaking up the dynasty. Curry, Thompson, Moody, Wiggins, and Looney doesn't look like a championship rotation, especially not with PBJ, Rollins, Santos, and miscellaneous vet mins and 2-ways as the bench. That said, a new GM may well want to make it "his or her" team in which case all bets are off.
Why do you think trading Poole and JK would mean Dray is gone? If anything if Dray’s leaving I’d want to keep Kuminga to eat up those minutes at the 4 no?
We all know he’s not going to be there but I’ll still hold out hope for #Dereck. After that for me it’s gotta be Howard. I see that Hawkins is getting a lot of love here but idk, it seem to me that a guy who’s only thing is hitting catch and shoot threes isn’t worth drafting for. Thats the type of player you grab from the G league, and that player would (ideally) have the advantage of having a more NBA ready build and much more experience. I’d rather spend my draft pick on someone who looks like a shot creator that can open those types of shots up for the catch and shoot guy, seems like the harder skill to find.
Can't go wrong with a #JORDAN can you? 😅
I honestly like this spread a lot: we have an initiator, a finisher, an eraser, and a facilitator—two offensively focused, two defensively, all seemingly high-BBIQ and effort.
But I went with Hawkins for a few reasons:
- With the direction basketball has been trending, I really don't think you can get enough competent 3-point threats on a roster.
- His defense is a work in progress but the signs are there for a two-way impact.
- His biggest strengths (catch-and-shoot, off-ball movement) seem like a perfect fit for the Warriors style of basketball.
Man im trying to think of that one poster on here who trashed Jama all of summer league saying he would never ever amount to anything as a coach…based on mac Mclung not being more of a distributor? Anywaus, good times. Godspeed, Jama in Toronto. Big big loss for the Warriors. I know all these guys were brought in for development of the young core but it was really Wiggins and Looney that seemed to have benefitted the most.