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Honestly, I won't mind if the Rockets win it all in this asterisk of a season. They still won't have beaten us to get there.

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I'm gunning for either Heat or Celtics, they seem like the least bad (but still realistic) options to win it this year. Giving Toronto a two-peat = the worst. Likewise further burnishing the legacies of Harden, Kawhi or Lebron with greater glory. Bucks looked to have dug themselves into a pretty bad hole and Nuggets don't have a real shot. Celtics and Heat both play good D with a modern motion-heavy offence, and a scrappy underdog energy (ironic given their team histories).

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yeah, should be interesting to see if they can make it out of the West without the Warriors in the way. I'm skeptical, especially after watching how hard they had to fight off OKC

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Sep 3, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Who had the Rockets winning with Harden having an ass game but making the key defensive play On their BINGO card?

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Sep 3, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Seems about as likely as any other outcome. Rockets winning and Harden having an ass game were on my card. Him getting the key defensive stop was not.

I do kind of think Harden's defense has crossed over into undervalued because of all the hate and some extremely visible instances of laziness/tiredness.

But even then, wtf. Basketball is great. You only sort of know what's going to happen next.

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If Miami takes down Bucks, Giannis most likely refuses to extend, and there's a real chance to trade for him. Seems like only way to get the deal done on our end would be to offer Klay + #2 pick this year + next year MIN first (+ some additional filler). Neither Dray or Wiggins contracts have enough value to get the job done. Would you be willing to trade Klay + our lottery picks to get Giannis? Lacob probably says yes to that, I'm feeling mixed...

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Mixing it up, how about Giannis for Dray + Paschal + Looney + #2 pick + MIN '21 FRP + 2 or 3 other GSW future firsts? Seems like a less likely deal for MIL to accept, but would keep Splash Bros together still and get Giannis (at the cost of Dray and all other positive assets we currently have).

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Why do that? We should be a pretty competitive team in the coming season, as a baseline. Getting rid of Dray is canceling a championship core before they've fallen. Losing all those pieces for Giannis does not give you any kind of guarantee of a better team- far from it.

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Next season yes, I think we are still contending. But, Giannis leaving bucks to sign in free agency for a Miami or Toronto team full of young 3&D wings, who are already good enough to make playoffs and are only going to keep improving = most likely end of GSW contention, especially as Dray continues to decline, and Klay and Steph both enter deeper into their 30s. We have a shot at picking up a next-gen star this year and next, but the extreme case scenario for them is to be as good as Giannis is now in maybe like 4-5 years. The way I see it, it's either keeping a better chance at one more ring next year and then were probably done, or rolling the dice on likely contention for 5-10 years more to come.

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Sep 3, 2020Liked by punk basketball

I’m not ready to write Draymond off just yet. Dray’s value/impact can’t really be measured unless the Splash Bros are there with him. There’s only so much he can do without shooters around him. He’s just not that type of player.

We shouldn’t be so quick to predict the Warriors downfall. A healthy Warriors team still hasn’t been beaten, and until that happens, you gotta ride it out with the guys who got you there.

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I'm with you, but let's not blind ourselves to the obvious, visible declines in all three of those core players over the last few years. As they get older, the chances go up that they'll spend significant time injured, and players with so many championships are going to have to dig deeper to find the fire to go that hard again.

Will Draymond suddenly lose his ability to recognize his opponents' sets & call out coverage changes to counter them? Nah, he'll be capable of seeing that stuff well into his old age. But he'll be real lucky if the backaches and whatnot that seem to be affecting his 3-point shot get better instead of worse.

Klay may need a while to get back into the game after healing his ACL. He'll probably still be an ironman for a while yet, but it's an open question whether his jumpshot looks as perfectly pristine as it did pre-injury. Setting aside the '19-20 season, '18-19 was his lowest 3P% in 6 years. We all know he trades off between phases of "nuclear hot" and "not refreshingly cold" but it's far from a sure thing that he'll be Toaster Headband Hot with any regularity next season.

Steph's getting older, too, and his vision is getting worse (but, thankfully, now he has contacts for that). His hand had nerve damage and the bit of that we saw before the injury this past season was a cold streak. I'm sure it's a few years yet that he'll be towards the top of the NBA in his ability to shake and bake, swish shots from just about anywhere, and beat double-teams with smart passes, but the Ankle Gods are always lurking. His games per season have been 79, 51, 69, and 5 from '16-17 to now, which is not exactly a good trend.

The sad truth of the matter is that "a healthy Warriors team" is not a guarantee for next season or beyond and the end of this core may come without "a healthy Warriors team" throughout the playoffs again. As far as the team's streak of extended excellence, the "downfall" is not a prediction, it's past history, and we're just debating how tough they'll be when they get back up again.

I sure think these guys could yet win the title a couple more times, depending on what kind of Strength In Numbers they have around them. But given the facts, I think the team wants more reliable and up-and-coming rotation players, rather than trading all the team's best options for a star player and leaving a bench full of misfits.

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> most likely end of GSW contention

How dare you! "Most likely"??

Sounds like you need an infusion of Gold Bloodedness!!

Jokes aside, that team would be ridiculous. But don't underestimate our guys, or what this team can transition into over the next three years. Remember that we currently hold two consecutive lotto picks (assuming the Wolves wolf it up next season). An aging core of gritty vets that know how to play alongside a bevy of young athletic players with tons of potential can work.

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Sep 3, 2020Liked by punk basketball

I'm gold-blooded to the core lol, but also a student of history... all dynasty age and death comes for us all. Winning requires some hard choices and sacrifices, and for me, the Warriors as a franchise is bigger than any single player. I first became a fan in 2009 while at Cal, and remember those shitty days still. I'm still optimistic for our chances and our current core, especially if we can use the overall bad financial climate to take advantage of the TPE and hit on our drafts. But the young'uns are only getting better, and there's other smart, hungry teams out there who would be more than happy to end our reign.

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The thing is, trading away those pics is the definition of mortgaging the future for today, and today we have a championship core that hasn't faded. Especially when you include Looney and Paschall, your thesis doesn't make sense. The Dubs are poised to reload through the draft and young players they have.

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I understand your point for sure; I am just wondering if perhaps you are undervaluing young Wiggins potential impact. How do you feel about him?

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Lmao spread the gold bloodedness

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Sep 3, 2020Liked by punk basketball

There’s absolutely no way the Warriors trade Klay, 0% chance.

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Especially coming off a lost season. That is not how the Dubs FO works at all!

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By which I mean Klay's lost season.

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I don't think there's any other way we get Giannis. Only way we get him is a trade for him this off-season (presuming he doesn't extend with Bucks). Bucks have two options - roll the dice one last time with him, which will require them spending big (after cheaping out on Brogden) in the worst financial climate, and risk losing him for nothing, or trade him away. Other teams are likely to offer a bounty, even if it's just for one year, given what happened with Kawhi in TOR. If GSW gets him, we probably re-sign him. If he stays on Bucks, or gets traded to another team, he probably leaves and is a FA in 2. We have no chance at finding max cap space in 2021. Miami or Toronto look like the main options there, which would probably doom GSW chances of another chip under Steph. Again, I feel very mixed about it for sentimental reasons, but Lacob would likely be willing to make that move. He has already traded away Monta for Bogut which got him booed at the time.

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The Warriors (at least publicly) have been adamant about keeping the Splash Bros together. It's just too perfect of a fit, for both players.

Yes, it seems like trading Klay is our only path to getting another superstar, but all sorts of weird things can happen out there. No one knows for sure, but I agree that including Klay in any trade is pretty much a hard no, even for a better overall player

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I don’t see Giannis as an upgrade over Klay. It’s blasphemy to even suggest trading Klay. Klay’s still the best 2 guard in the league. Trading him would be a lateral move at best, and would leave Steph as the only shooter on the team. That’s a recipe for disaster. There’s a synergy to having the Splash Bros that is the basis of Kerr’s system and the team’s culture. Trading Klay would disrupt the entire team, no matter who he’s traded for.

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I get the emotional attachment to Klay, and the idea that Klay and Steph are perfectly synergistic, but to say that Giannis won't be an upgrade over Klay is just silly. Klay is one of the two greatest shooters ever, and a very good perimeter player. He's not 2x MVP and DPOY level though. Giannis would also have pretty damn strong synergies with Steph on offense (the most dominant rim and perimeter player together is a defensive nightmare). Agree that it's a huge cost and might be blasphemous to suggest, but this is an ownership that willingly traded away Monta Ellis at his fan beloved peak for a used Bogut. Obviously, all of this depends on Bucks losing series to Heat and Giannis confirming he won't extend.

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Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I don't want Giannis on our team. The Dubs have an identity and superstars, and while it was fun when KD was here, he felt like a hired gun. I don't want them to give up on so much they've built simply to bring in the hot, new hired gun. What if Giannis gets injured? Putting all the eggs in one basket is foolhardy an the antithesis of strength-in-numbers.

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I also think the Bucks with Klay instead of Giannis would be so much, much worse. Klay's game elevates itself because he has amazing ball handlers and passers around him, skills which complement his. He's transcendent as a finisher and a second option, not as the focal point of an offense.

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Sep 2, 2020Liked by punk basketball, Daniel Hardee

Those background vocals had me LAUGHING! Great work.

I take great pleasure in any team putting the Rockets in their place ("They ain't even that goood"). They're more of a failed experiment than a venerable foe. Even if they make it out of the first round, they won't make it out of the second. Harden is good, but Westbrook has to be one of the most overrated players I've ever seen. He absolutely falls apart in the playoffs and is the LAST player who should have the ball in their hands in the 4th quarter. CP3 eliminating the Rockets would be pure poetry.

The entire Rockets organization is the definition of insanity. They keep playing the same way and failing in the playoffs, but instead of changing course, they double down and further commit to their failed style.

If they get ousted in the first round, it should be hard to justify the coach and GM keeping their jobs, as they've become a laughing stock. I can't take the Rockets seriously any more.

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^^^^ all facts, and thank you for checking the music video!

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I'll admit that I haven't paid a ton of attention to the playoffs. But as things progress, I am surprised to find that I have more of a rooting interest than I knew:

- I'm hoping Toronto gets knocked out. I know this is a strange year, but as good a team as they are, I don't like them as back-to-back champions. Even with the invisible asterisk, I don't like it.

- I'm hoping Houston goes down. That's a hard call, as I don't want Chris Paul to advance. But somehow, it feels right for Houston to go down in flames trying to do their version of smallball.

- In general, I'm hoping the favorites will lose -- the Lakers, the Clippers, the Bucks. If I could have my way, I'd love to see the Nuggets triumph over the Heat in the finals. That would be a fitting end of the COVID playoffs and a reminder that this was NOT a normal year.

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If CP3 beats Houston....that's gonna be tough for CLUTCH CITY to swallow

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Especially after it COST the Rockets two draft picks to have the honor of trading CP3 for Westbrook. It worked with him at Center for a while, but the Rockets were bound to run into a design wall.

Agree though, some front office heads will roll if the Rockets lose tonight

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I'm hoping. :)

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put the hate back into the slow cooker bro. Looks like it's not time to eat yet. Give it another couple weeks and check on the takes again

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Sep 2, 2020Liked by punk basketball, Daniel Hardee

In honor of Daniel Hardee and the entire LGW team, I shall wear my Strength in Numbers t-shirt for tonight’s game.

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lets goooooo!!!

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Oh yeah, and probably the tallest rotation in the league vs the shortest!

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A match made in hell.

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