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Ruling out Bender too quickly, imho, Kerr might ask for a personal cadeau, because he looks good in motion offense.

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As per the tweet you shared in the article, Chriss becomes guaranteed 7/15/20 i.e. 10 days into free agency. Others get guaranteed 1/15/21 and being. That tells me Chriss is practically a lock except for something drastic happening during FA.

JTA's hustle and effort level on defense is highest among these guys (close second would be My), per my eye test and it bears out in his stats including fouls. He and Ky are toss up - keep one.

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I see Chriss, Lee, and Mulder as making the team out of the gate this year. I see JTA and Bowman as on the bubble; I would not be surprised to see either on the team next year but think that the org is going to look to strengthen both the guard and the wing positions over the offseason. Depending on how that shakes out, Bowman and/or JTA could be pushed to the periphery. I'd say JTA more likely to be back on the squad due to the dearth of wing talent in the league.

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by "this year" I mean next season.

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I really like Bowman but I think I agree he's the odd man out. He's defensively-minded but his results were inconsistent, both defense and offense, and at his height it takes more to really make it in the NBA. Still, I'd hope up have him as an end-of-the-bench guy or two-way contract. He has enough good stuff—passing, steals, speed, and surprising high-flying dunking ability—that he could be a blast to watch if his game develops some more.

Toscano seems very polished, especially for a G-league call-up. I would love to have him in the rotation going forward. His decisions just seem solid, his defense is good, his offense is efficient at low volume, and he's got the local kid charm.

Chriss has looked like everything we ever wanted Damion Jones to be (not as tall, but with a very high leap). His rim protection was looking surprisingly reliable as of recent, with lots of good blocks and contests without fouling. And his lob finishing is superb. I think the team could make the playoffs next season with him as the starting center.

Lee had his ups and downs but he has been reliable and hard-working. I see him as a backup guard next season, doing a lot of the same things as Klay but not as well, except rebounding.

Mulder, I don't think we've seen enough to know long-term, but his defense seems OK and his shot was one of the more reliable ones on a team with no reliable shooting, except a couple nights when it went cold. Feels like he's right behind Lee in the same role, but could pass him if his shooting is on.

Agreed we don't want Bender at this point, and all the other 10-days look like busts too. Randle looked like a liability on both sides of the ball and didn't get a chance to shine. Pargo was a black hole, though he actually made enough shots that it's a little harder to criticize considering the other players on the court with him.

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Chriss is the only one I can imagine as a 2nd string off the bench next year.

Everybody else is 3rd string or two-way guys on a contending team.

Bowman seems like the odd man out in general with Poole looking natural with the ball in his hand as the PG spot.

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One of the big bummers about the season getting so abruptly curtailed is we were just about to get a nice serving of Curry playing alongside a lot of these other marginal players.

Mulder in particular, had me curious about if he looked like a viable backup to Klay playing with Steph

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Yeah, we talk about the bench, but I think Curry, Green, and Wiggins not getting time together is some important development time lost.

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Yeah. Development time may have been stolen a bit, since the team will definitely be in win now mode next season.

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I see Chriss as a lock, JTA and Mulder as the closest thing to 3 and D players we’ve got besides Klay, and Damion Lee as a wild card who is helped both by his growing bond with his teammates and his relationship to Curry. I see Bowman as the odd man out.

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JTA is all D marginal 3

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Mar 14, 2020Liked by punk basketball

Great topic for these very odd times. I'll admit that I fall in love with players quickly; apparently, I love a guy in a Warriors' uniform.

Of the guys you covered here, I think you're right that Chriss and Lee are relatively safe, but even they could be traded if it means a significant improvement somewhere. Everyone else is up in the air.

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Good topic, DDD! Undoubtedly, there will be many opinions about these players and many questions surrounding them. It is just those questions which will keep the team searching for better talent. Chriss is the only sure thing, really making his case since being re-claimed off waivers. You can't question his energy, paint skills, and hops. He is at least a backup and maybe even a sometime starter depending on matchups. He will improve as he now has the confidence of his teammates and the return of the Warrior stars.

Bowman is really marginal. We need size and this is what the Warriors were probably thinking with Mulder, but neither player has brought real consistency to the game but both have good energy, just not the talent to break into this team.

DLee is the most difficult to judge. Hustle is his middle name. Streakiness is his game. He can be maddening in his inconsistency, but he does have a lot of offensive tools. He is an unfinished piece, but I think the Warriors will keep him on a low value contract because of loyalty and to see if they can further develop his game. He's a good guy.

JTA only looks good because there is no one else. He reminds me of McKinnie, with a nose for rebounding. Not a bad feature to have if you are a Warrior player. But, is it enough? I think they will look further for better talent and sign him if there is no one else that they find.

Bender indeed has made a case that he can offer up some offense, but his game is not at an NBA level defensively or from a purely shooter's pov. Soft hands and feet. He needs some dance classes, big man's camp. If he is cheap, the Warriors may pop for him as they desperately need size.

I would not be surprised to see a major trade being made this off season. It could involve Wiggins, the picks, and a philosophically difficult decision to trade Draymond which I know is not popular with many fans. The team needs rebuilding. They need offensive production and Green is not giving them that from the PF position. With the money he makes, we can possibly bring 1 or 2 strong help players that glue this team into another juggernaut. I like Covington's game. We need another complete player. Wiggins was thought to be that but I have strong doubts he has the mental toughness that winning requires. Green has that, but not the skills offensively or psychologically as he continues to hurt the team with his bone headed arguing with the refs which wind up with T's and ejections.

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I don't disagree with much there other than losing Draymond because we need offense. We will be getting two of the greatest offensive players in the history of the game back, and our need will continue to be consistent defense (boosting JTA's case). Yes, we'll have more defensive need on the wing, but our defense is a bit hub-and-spoke-y, with Draymond being the hub when he's on the floor.

I agree that there is a good chance we'll see a significant transaction, or at least a strong attempt at one, that would include picks and Wiggins. I could see wrapping Chriss in there in an attempt to go at Embiid. I don't see much of a chance Draymond is packaged for anyone other than Giannis.

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Strawman,

I wrote this with Steph/Klay in mind and already back on the floor. We lost a megastar in KD, a perpetual scoring machine. Wiggins cannot replace him. So my thought about trading Draymond was what we could get back for him, replenish the scoring defecit, keep a defensive balance by getting a player like Covington, while adding pieces to the future of the team. Kill two birds with one stone. Without KD, this team will not be the same by any stretch. Draymond is a support player, not a superstar. He's a good defensman but not untouchable. His production has been declining. It would be a move to secure a brighter future. Do I think ownership will do this? Probably not, because this would seem like a radical gamble to what many perceive as a sure thing with our existing core. I am not one of those who think Dray is untradeable. It would be a very progressive move and one that I think they will make sooner than later, if not this year, maybe next. Giannis? Very slim chance that he leaves Milwaukee. Warriors may not want to have their backs up against the wall financially again, like this year. A real re-build is needed and they have the beginnings of one at hand this offseason. It's one possibility.

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If the wanted Covington they could have got him from Minnesota before he was traded to the rockets. I'm not sure rockets will trade him .. Well as for Draymond I feel like u do too. I think he is even undersized for his position most times. Esp how siakam abused him in the finals. Siakam struggled against every PF in the playoffs except draymond. Everybody knows he can't shoot so all he does is pass. He is more like Rondo with more defense..

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Slim, I believe the Warriors had targeted Wiggins and were not thinking about trading Draymond. Because of the financial limitations the Warriors were under, Covington probably couldn't have been had as the $$ would never have added up to a successful trade involving DLO. With the success that Covington is having with Houston, he has been unchained from the T-wolves problems and has become an incredible asset. I haven't looked at his contract to see if he could be available, but I am also using him as an example of getting value back for Draymond if he were available. Surely there must be some other players who have a more rounded game than Draymond that play PF! A trade like that could be a key to the future.

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Covington is a SF and not a power foward like draymond. Dlo for Covington+Jeff Teague would have worked. Teague is expiring contract and that would have freed up cap space to bring in someone new

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Your first paragraph could be written by me 😁

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