Jordan poole with another offseason of crazy work ethic is about to go nuckin futs this year, even with wiggins possibly being out I have no issue sliding poole into the starting lineup, I believe with his added strength and experience he will be a solid defender he has very quick feet and an insane quick first step
If Wiggins doesn’t budge, I think he needs to be taken out of the starting lineup altogether, as the in and out with road and home games has to be disruptive for everyone getting acclimated to their roles and rotations, no? Even would be disruptive coming off the bench but it’s probably more preferable than him doing it to the starting unit I’d imagine. Either way, if it comes to this he should get traded, even for a lesser player, right? One who would at least not need considerations like Wiggins missing half the games would. Also would get the media headache away, which the team didn’t enjoy when KD was around.
Heck, I’d be even cool with him just not being part of the rotation at all, letting him stew until he got vaxxed and even lessens the chances he’s out there spreading covid to visiting teams’ players and also not riling opposing teams’ fans to make too much noise booing and such while he’s out there. I doubt Kerr would do that nor do I think Lacob would be cool with all that money just be sitting around whenever Wiggins is available to play if not even that would make Wiggins budge.
But yeah, if not, I think dude just needs to be gone from the team, or at least a role where it’s funking up the rotations, especially while the young guys gotta learn a certain flow when it comes to that too.
Steve Kerr on Jonathan Kuminga: "Immediately he looks like a 4 because of his power, strength in his body, ability to guard multiple positions. I think the easiest way for him to make an impact will be as a 4, limiting what he has to do offensively...Dive man, roll man, DHO guy."
What if Draymond isn't w/ the team because he "doesn't feel comfortable" having to play with unvaccinated players or something to that effect? My initial thought when he missed media day was: I wonder if Draymond disagreed with Wiggs, would he be able to hold back from saying some wild stuff? It at least seems plausible to me that Dray would tell the team: "figure out the Wiggins thing, then I'll show up".
I'm probably wrong but did this cross anyone else's mind?
People asked about the impact on the cap if a player misses games for lack of vaccination. Here is another piece of the puzzle:
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Essentially, Wiggins and Irving would be missing out on $300K per home game if they can’t play because of local vaccine mandates. The league is still discussing if this will be a league fine or a team fine, according to Marks, which could impact the luxury bills for the Warriors and Nets.
So, here's my theory of where Wiggins is coming from. This is (almost) complete SPECULATION so please treat it as such.
If I had to guess, there are a couple of possible issues here. One is with the MRNA vaccines, which are using a brand-new method that does not have a lot of historical data to understand long-term effects. The J&J should be less risky when looked at through this lens. The other is with all vaccines, in that fetal stem cell lines were used for part of the development/testing/production of both the MRNA vaccines and the J&J (see https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/you-asked-we-answered-do-the-covid-19-vaccines-contain-aborted-fetal-cells) -- although neither vaccine CONTAINS fetal stem cells. The Vatican has issued a statement allowing Roman Catholics to receive either vaccine, however that might not carry weight with Christians of other denominations. I was originally under the impression J&J did not use fetal stem cell lines, however they are used in the production of the vaccine, so if one were to object to this technique, none of the FDA approved (emergency or otherwise) vaccines are clear of this issue.
Given Wiggins applied for a religious exemption, my best guess is that this is the issue for him. If it's more of the "MRNA is a new untested technique" issue, J&J is a more traditional vaccine and that might appeal to the more conservative mindset when it comes to using new medical techniques.
If Wiggins ends up opting for the J&J, he can get it as late as two weeks before opening night and be allowed to play. If he chooses for either of the MRNA two-shot vaccines, the timeline is substantially longer and he'd have to get vaccinated very soon. And of course, if he continues to choose to not be vaccinated, there is a really messy road ahead.
""Draymond is probably the best leader or teammate you could have," LaVine said. "He's out there each and every day watching film with guys, looking at different defensive scouts, bringing guys together. Obviously we know (Kevin Durant) was the best player on the planet at this time in the game, but Draymond was very, very crucial in us winning that gold medal."
- Zach Lavine
Its things like this which make me hesitant to straight up trade Simmons for Draymond. On a game level, they are relatively similar (Dray being a better defender while SImmons is a better scorer), but its the intangibles which make Dray so amazing!!
I've been rewatching some highlight games from last year. Last night I watched the first half of Steph's 62 point detonation against the Trailblazers. This was in the middle of Oubre's record-settingly terrible start from three point range as was raised every time he clanked a shot. It was impressive to see he still had a positive impact on the game from the defensive end and with his hustle, securing multiple contested rebounds, drawing a backcourt offensive foul after a made bucket, and in general making himself a complete pest to the other team. Gonna miss that guy.
(Also, Wiggins was a standout defensively as well. Really hoping he gets it together in time to start the season).
Jordan poole with another offseason of crazy work ethic is about to go nuckin futs this year, even with wiggins possibly being out I have no issue sliding poole into the starting lineup, I believe with his added strength and experience he will be a solid defender he has very quick feet and an insane quick first step
If Wiggins doesn’t budge, I think he needs to be taken out of the starting lineup altogether, as the in and out with road and home games has to be disruptive for everyone getting acclimated to their roles and rotations, no? Even would be disruptive coming off the bench but it’s probably more preferable than him doing it to the starting unit I’d imagine. Either way, if it comes to this he should get traded, even for a lesser player, right? One who would at least not need considerations like Wiggins missing half the games would. Also would get the media headache away, which the team didn’t enjoy when KD was around.
Heck, I’d be even cool with him just not being part of the rotation at all, letting him stew until he got vaxxed and even lessens the chances he’s out there spreading covid to visiting teams’ players and also not riling opposing teams’ fans to make too much noise booing and such while he’s out there. I doubt Kerr would do that nor do I think Lacob would be cool with all that money just be sitting around whenever Wiggins is available to play if not even that would make Wiggins budge.
But yeah, if not, I think dude just needs to be gone from the team, or at least a role where it’s funking up the rotations, especially while the young guys gotta learn a certain flow when it comes to that too.
Hopefully he budges and this is all moot.
In case you were curious about Kuminga’s role:
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Steve Kerr on Jonathan Kuminga: "Immediately he looks like a 4 because of his power, strength in his body, ability to guard multiple positions. I think the easiest way for him to make an impact will be as a 4, limiting what he has to do offensively...Dive man, roll man, DHO guy."
https://twitter.com/anthonyvslater/status/1443308161973121024?s=21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpZztb-T7qI
Ron Adams looks like he has a 7ft wingspan #lockdown
Ted Cruz 'stands with' unvaccinated Andrew Wiggins... barf. Apologies to any Ted Cruz fans out there.
*super tinfoil hat time*
What if Draymond isn't w/ the team because he "doesn't feel comfortable" having to play with unvaccinated players or something to that effect? My initial thought when he missed media day was: I wonder if Draymond disagreed with Wiggs, would he be able to hold back from saying some wild stuff? It at least seems plausible to me that Dray would tell the team: "figure out the Wiggins thing, then I'll show up".
I'm probably wrong but did this cross anyone else's mind?
People asked about the impact on the cap if a player misses games for lack of vaccination. Here is another piece of the puzzle:
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Essentially, Wiggins and Irving would be missing out on $300K per home game if they can’t play because of local vaccine mandates. The league is still discussing if this will be a league fine or a team fine, according to Marks, which could impact the luxury bills for the Warriors and Nets.
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2021/9/29/22700439/nba-unvaccinated-players-kyrie-irving-andrew-wiggins-money
So, here's my theory of where Wiggins is coming from. This is (almost) complete SPECULATION so please treat it as such.
If I had to guess, there are a couple of possible issues here. One is with the MRNA vaccines, which are using a brand-new method that does not have a lot of historical data to understand long-term effects. The J&J should be less risky when looked at through this lens. The other is with all vaccines, in that fetal stem cell lines were used for part of the development/testing/production of both the MRNA vaccines and the J&J (see https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/you-asked-we-answered-do-the-covid-19-vaccines-contain-aborted-fetal-cells) -- although neither vaccine CONTAINS fetal stem cells. The Vatican has issued a statement allowing Roman Catholics to receive either vaccine, however that might not carry weight with Christians of other denominations. I was originally under the impression J&J did not use fetal stem cell lines, however they are used in the production of the vaccine, so if one were to object to this technique, none of the FDA approved (emergency or otherwise) vaccines are clear of this issue.
Given Wiggins applied for a religious exemption, my best guess is that this is the issue for him. If it's more of the "MRNA is a new untested technique" issue, J&J is a more traditional vaccine and that might appeal to the more conservative mindset when it comes to using new medical techniques.
If Wiggins ends up opting for the J&J, he can get it as late as two weeks before opening night and be allowed to play. If he chooses for either of the MRNA two-shot vaccines, the timeline is substantially longer and he'd have to get vaccinated very soon. And of course, if he continues to choose to not be vaccinated, there is a really messy road ahead.
2EARLY2TELL POLL: Who do you guys think will take the 15th spot?
-Avery Bradley
-Langston Galloway
-Mychal Mulder
-Gary Payton ll
""Draymond is probably the best leader or teammate you could have," LaVine said. "He's out there each and every day watching film with guys, looking at different defensive scouts, bringing guys together. Obviously we know (Kevin Durant) was the best player on the planet at this time in the game, but Draymond was very, very crucial in us winning that gold medal."
- Zach Lavine
Its things like this which make me hesitant to straight up trade Simmons for Draymond. On a game level, they are relatively similar (Dray being a better defender while SImmons is a better scorer), but its the intangibles which make Dray so amazing!!
I've been rewatching some highlight games from last year. Last night I watched the first half of Steph's 62 point detonation against the Trailblazers. This was in the middle of Oubre's record-settingly terrible start from three point range as was raised every time he clanked a shot. It was impressive to see he still had a positive impact on the game from the defensive end and with his hustle, securing multiple contested rebounds, drawing a backcourt offensive foul after a made bucket, and in general making himself a complete pest to the other team. Gonna miss that guy.
(Also, Wiggins was a standout defensively as well. Really hoping he gets it together in time to start the season).
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NBA spokesman Mike Bass: "Any player who elects not to comply with local vaccination mandates will not be paid for games that he misses."
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1443233634266329094?s=21
Three talented players who didn't quite fit the Warriors style of play. I will be following their careers and wish them the best.